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Klosters VERBIER or laax

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Which of these resorts. Group of 4 adults 3 fairly strong intermediates who like challenging piste skiing and will dabble off piste. My view is we can't go wrong with any of above.

Dan
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dan100,

Been to all and would agree, if going late in the season you should be aware that a lot of Laax's alopes get the sun though.
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I've also been to all three and would agree.

Will you have your own transport, and how much dabbling do you expect to do?
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Substitute Klosters for Davos and you'll be able to access the same ski areas but with a bit less travel time. I don't know Laax, but would definitely say that Davos/Klosters area has more pistes that Verbier.
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I've also been to all three and would agree.

Will you have your own transport, and how much dabbling do you expect to do?


yes to transport- in terms of off piste more iteniaries and stuff at side that is not too steep -not hardcore back country
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dan100, If you've your own transport, then all are a good bet.

The Verbier itineries are a great intro in my opinion. There's no navigation risk and so the need for hiring a guide is removed. The resort is, however, probably lacking on-piste compared to the others.

That said, I haven't been to Flims/Laax since they created their "safe" off-piste areas.
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dan100, If you've your own transport, then all are a good bet.

The Verbier itineries are a great intro in my opinion. There's no navigation risk and so the need for hiring a guide is removed. The resort is, however, probably lacking on-piste compared to the others.

That said, I haven't been to Flims/Laax since they created their "safe" off-piste areas.


I 'skied 1 or 2 of them about 11 years ago. I agree the piste skiing is not that extensive but some of the classic route are fun.

I quite fancy laax or klosters
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Verbier is a sensational place to ski - one of my favourite resorts, in fact. Switzerland is regarded as an expensive country, the resorts often costing more to book, but once there, I found it to be cheaper than many of the French resorts. Verbier's pistes are well maintained and well marked, extensive, challenging slopes with a lot of off-slope potential and some good bump runs. Verbier also has several routes which are half-way between pistes and off-piste descents. Designated as 'Itinéraires', they're marked as orange lines on the piste map, and waymarked on the ground, but neither groomed, nor controlled for avalanches. The ski patrollers close them if they're considered unsafe - but that doesn't stop people setting off avalanches. Verbier also has an incredible nightlife and great choice for afternoon après ski.
Over the years Klosters has managed to keep away from the forces of extended commercialization and has wonderfully managed to preserve much of the Alpine charm it has always been known for. The Klosters ski resort has several marked walks within the valley, by the river and up the mountains that offer skiers and non-skiers a great opportunity to bask in the warmth of the sun and relax, skiers have the good on- and off-piste.
Laax has an impressive 137 miles of mainly intermediate slopes and is very popular with weekenders.
I don't really recommend you Laax, try to decide between Verbier (if you prefer more comopolitan resorts with one of the best off-piste skiing) or Kloster (if you prefer more relaxing hollidays). At Laax you have buses or long walks to lifts from much of the accommodation and the village very spread out, which detracts from its charm.
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At Laax you have buses or long walks to lifts from much of the accommodation and the village very spread out, which detracts from its charm.


Confused Confused The best place to stay if skiing Laax is properly called Laax Murschetg, though most just call it Laax - the hotel accommodation is right at the bottom of the gondola or the cable car. I haven't tried the other two resorts but I think Laax would fit your requirements - we thought it was great. There's not a great deal of night-life if staying at Laax though, you're better of staying in Flims probably for that. SnowHead eng_ch has an apartment at Laax - if she doesn't see this thread you could PM her snowHead
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dan100, yeah three of the best... All need to be done before you hang up your poles... Of the three I would save Verbier until your groups o/p skills have developed a little more to get the most out of the place.
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I'd imagine that you would save a packet by going to Laax - It's the only place I have been to ski in Switzerland so I will offer my views on the experience I had there.

Cost: I booked last minute on the internet around Jan 18 this year and for 3 nights, 3 days I paid 236 Swiss Francs, which included lift tickets and accommodation

Accom: Was in Laax-Murschetg at the Riders' Palace, short walk to the gondola. The place is very clean although dorm-style and mostly snowboarders and young people if you can stomach that.

Piste: Huge! elevation is from 1,100m to 3,200m plenty of untracked pow in the trees or you could go up the cable car to the far right of Flims (i think) where you have a huge bowl with an 800m drop.

Apres: The Rock Bar, top of the main Gondola above Murschetg - spectacular view of sunset.

As for Verbier I've only heard the chair talk about those 2 metre high moguls that encourage the skiers to go back down via gondola??
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Thanks - I went to Verbier a long time ago and I remember the moguls being higher.

Choice is coming down to Laax or Klosters. Accomodation cost difference not that significant.

Is klosters expensive when there
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dan100,
I have been to Klosters once quite a few years ago but to Davos several times including this year, as a general impression it is on the expensive side for Swiss resorts.
I have been to Flims /Laax once several years ago, my impression was it was average pricewise.

Main caveat is that those were general impressions. My own experience of Switzerland as a whole is that if you are not self catering or half board eating out in the evening is the bit that makes you wince. Otherwise prices have recently been better than the big French resorts. Obviously exchange rates may vary this.
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One of the benefits of Switzerland in my experience is that the prices don't go up as you go up the mountain Wink It's particularly good for reasonably priced but filling light lunches - if you opt for Laax I'll give you a couple of tips. And anyway, you can't go far wrong with a Bratwurst and a slice of bread Smile

Rusho's summary of the skiing in Flims/Laax is pretty spot-on but unless you're a 20-sth, the Rider's Palace wouldn't be my first choice. It's *the* venue if you're into the sort of music I'm not (!), but it's better still if you can go 'home' to your accommodation again afterwards
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Klosters and Davos can be expensive if you eat out every night and want to go to the trendy night spots, but as always there are cheaper ways to go. I once met a couple in Klosters who had rented a bedsit above the buchers shop and cooked in every night, they reconed that the whole trip was about half the cost of going with a tour Op and staying in the hotel that they used to have a couple of drinks in after they had eaten.
Supermarket prices are cheaper than in France, I was able to do a direct comparison as on my way back from Davos I stopped over in Chamonix for a week self catering. I have never been ripped off in Switzerland but I can't say the same about France.
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Well Laax is the choice. flights booked hopefully apartment reserved. just need to sort out transfers - what's the best car hire option as the train to chur/ postbus or resort shuttle look pricey and won't be as convenient as car hire
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Yeah I agree with Dycdiver Klosters is expensive and its not really something I would pay that much for. You don't want to shell out alot of money for largly substaandard accomodation. It is a holiday. I would recomend Chamonix to its nice great pistes and not to expensive as well. I hav ufortunalty been and payed alot of money which was for a pretty substandard holiday. Though it is anice country just bear in mind money speaks out there. Val Thoren slopes are probably one of the better ones I thought it was relativly priced but stick with Chamonix if your on a budget
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dan100, we took the resort shuttle. It was quite pricey, had to wait 2 hours at Zurich airport for the shuttle to Laax. But the good thing was it was only the two of us there and back so we had a lovely plush private car shuttle. We could have had to spend all day Sunday at Zurich on the return trip if the shuttle kept to its times - as it was only us it left at a time convenient for our flight Very Happy

Another couple at our hotel did the train/postbus thing. They very nearly missed the connection on the trip back and I think it was about the same cost as our shuttle.

Either option wasn't particularly convenient. If you can, I'd hire a car.
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thanks - looking at the resort shuttle It doesn;t look that much better value than a private taxi for 4 persons.
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I'm going to Laax Early March for a long weekend with some friends 6 in total. Anybody got any idea of what the drink/food prices are for this year in the resort (staying in Laax Murchsteg) and on the mountain.

Thanks
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cham08, Crisps 3,70chf, Espresso 3,20chf, Spag-bol 13,95chf Grosser-bier 8,00chf Very Happy
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red 27, where'd you find that or are you yanking a chain? Prices up the mountain are usually much the same as at the base station
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eng_ch, are you saying that prices are more or less than what red27 said?

Thanks
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