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quality of skis?

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hi everyone,

i am just about to make a decision on some new skis, i have wittled it down to a few pairs and just need to try them out if i can. i do have one question though and i know the retailers/shops wont tell me this so hoping you guys can.

the skis i have on my shortlist are k2 extreme, movement spark, fischer watea, salamon lord. all basically all mountain skis and seem quite versitile in that they can be used on various terrain and conditions. all are similar in price as well. so my question is, are there any major differences in the quality of the ski i.e. materials used, are some massively heavy, quality of manufacturing etc...i know from other sports such as fishing for example that all things are similar in price but some companies make their products better than others and wondering if that was the case here?
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colors, Not sure about the quality thing all the k2 skis are made in China last I heard. The Lord do have this new reverse canting thingie that apparently makes them more fun in the pow all the mags are raving about them aswell.
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colors,

Can only talk about the Spark as I have skied that lots this past few years. Swiss ski, made in Italy or Tunisia..in the same factory as G3. I'd research them as well.
The guys at Noble are good to talk to about Movements.

The Spark is quite light and has a good edge hold. Quite snappy and whizzy, floats well for 82mm and will take a straightish line..within reason...in deeper snow without getting knocked about too much.
Very good ski, IMV...

As far as I can tell....it is the same ski these last few graphic incarnations, but again, Noble will tell you this if you ask them. They may even have a few older models stashed somewhere if you ask.
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colors, imo you're all over the map in terms of performance.

You don't say -which- Watea; either, I assume either the 84 or 95.

Anyhow, any quality issues are completely secondary to what will actually work for you best.
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comprex - it shouldnt really matter what model in the range im looking at as they are all made of the same materials i.e. the watea 84 will be made from the same things as the 95. what i was asking really was the quality of materials and the manufacturing of the product. some big name companies in other sports i.e. running equipment, fishing equipment have a reputation as the biggest in the business but they arent the best. for example some running shoes made by the biggest sporting brands in the world which are quite expensive shoes arent made that well and dont use the best materials etc. so really all i wanted to do was are the above skis all relatively the same in terms of quality of materials and how well they are made, or do some skimp on some areas that others dont?
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I understood your question, but this:

colors wrote:
comprex - it shouldnt really matter what model in the range im looking at as they are all made of the same materials i.e. the watea 84 will be made from the same things as the 95.


is not a supportable assumption given similar board thickness and torsional rigidity constraints.
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hi comprex, i know what your saying about getting the right ski that suits me etc but all i really wanted to know is what the quality of the skis are like not how the different models in the range will perform on different terrain. yes the watea 84 will have a different feel to the watea 95 and the set up of the ski itself will be totally different, i understand all this. the models in the watea range though will still essentially be made from the same materials made by the same people and put together in the same way. what i would like to know is if say the watea uses better materials and manufacturing processes than say the k2 extreme, movement spark or the salomon lord. it is a valid question and is really aimed at the manufacturer and not how the skis differ within a certain range if that makes sense Smile
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I can only speak for the Salomon and K2 skis here as these are the 2 brands out of the four you mention that we deal with. We have dealt with both brands sice their arrival on the UK ski scene years ago and have very little problem with either brand in terms of warranty claims - come to think of it, I haven't had an issue with either in at least the last 5 years on skis that we have sold. In terms of quality of materials used for the job in hand K2 are generally very good, their skis ski well, feel solid and are made from good raw materials on the whole. Salomon however, have earned a rep in the last few years for skimping when it comes to quality raw materials in their skis although their bindings remained well liked - this however seems to be something they are putting behind them with their new skis, especially the Lord which is a fine example of how to build a ski and use a good bit of new technology as well
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sail and ski wrote:
, especially the Lord which is a fine example of how to build a ski and use a good bit of new technology as well


What's the new technology - rocker? Appropriating it for the mass market a couple of seasons after K2?
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