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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Sorry to hear about your accident, its always the small falls that seem to do the damage....just ask the misses...she caught a back edge on a flat green piste in Les Deux Alpes and ended up with a factured spine!
I personally just have ass protection as I had a few nasty back edges when learning....you've never seen bruises like it!...I think my curent ones are Burton maybe, not sure though..but they do the job...they have the added bonus of keeping your rump warm when sitting in the middle of the piste annoying skiers.
My bro has the Dainese shorts which he highly recommends...he also has full moto-X gear , so we natuarally rip the p*ss out of him for being a wuss.
I did experiment with the Dakine wrist guards, but found them annoying when on button lifts as I couldn't grab the pole properly....and I struggled to get my gloves over them, but I would defo wear them if I had a history of wrist injuries.
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I always wear a dainese back protector jacket thing, absolutely always. I wear a helmet if it's icy or I plan on being a peanut for the day. That's it, wrist guards? We didnt win 2 world wars with wrist guards did we.
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Idem with spine protectors...I don't think they're worth until you plan on going into the park and trying dangerous tricks.. |
I broke my ribs barely moving on piste, fell over my heel edge and landed flat on my back on a large ball of ice/hard snow. A back protector would I'm sure lessened it a bit, but maybe it was just unlucky where the ice stuck in me.
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I have wrist guards, and never snowboard without them (not that I board very often, or very hard, or very fast, or very anything). I know the arguments about the shock being transferred further up the arm, but wrists are super-complicated. I have become quite good at falling (lots of practice...) but whilst little falls are OK, and I do try to cross arms across chest etc. I did bash my wrist in a particularly spectacular cartwheeling fall one day last year. It hadn't stopped hurting when I drove back to UK some days later - it was very sore changing gear on occasion, and because I have some experience of scaphoid fractures (my daughter did one playing basket ball and it wasn't till next day that she decided things were bad enough to get X-rayed) I went to A & E after a few days in the UK. They X-rayed and said they couldn't see a fracture of the scaphoid, but that they were often not obvious on X rays, and that I should wear a support and go back some weeks later. In the end it settled down, and I didn't go back, and in the meantime the support was a help. Without the guards, the force could well have broken the scaphoid. On that occasion I was completely out of control and the sheer centrifugal force of the cartwheel meant I had no chance of doing clever things with my arms. I had a helmet on too, which was good as in the middle stage of my cartwheel the top of my head, or rather helmet, was the only thing in contact with the ground. I think the next thing to hit the ground was the edge of the board, which whiplashed me forward again - onto my wrist. By that time I had rather lost track....).
You do need to buy wrist guards and gloves together (there are some which are sold as a unit) because the wrist guards are too bulky to go into some gloves. Mine are Dakine. I did wear knee and elbow guards (cheap skateboarding ones from Decathlon) at the outset, but don't bother now - they were very uncomfortable. I have armoured knickers too. They don't protect your coccyx unless you fall properly, which is a great incentive. I have found them most useful in preventing heavy bruising on the top of thighs/hips. I wear them skiing sometimes, for example if trying to do turns on the wrong leg. They need extra large trousers to go over the top; sexy they're not.
Re-reading the above, I do wonder why I bother.
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VolklAttivaS5, I thought you were going to Tignes in October?
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pam w, I'm going to Tignes with you and Mountain Sun in October and will be skiing as it will be too icy for boarding for me and too early to risk knackering this hand up again. At least with skiing you tend to fall to the side and can do something about it. December I'm back there in Tignes for 3 weeks until Christmas, 1 week boarding/skiing (well that was the plan!) and 2 weeks on a course skiing with Dave Peek et al with Inspired to Ski.
I think I will have a look at some wrist guarded gloves as my gloves won't get anything underneath them they're too close fitting. Plus some knee things simply because I hate falling on my knees. I don't like to see them all black and mottled as they are now.
Thanks for the info guys!
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butt protection my main bit of safety equipment - protects my brain !!,
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rayscoops,
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Actually rayscoops, this season might see you don back protection as well mightn't it?
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Kruisler, maybe ....... but I include L4 L5 discs as my butt and my padding extends over that region
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You know it makes sense.
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Wrist guards, knee pads and a helmet. My backside is big enough to look after itself
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VolklAttivaS5, have a look at the Level Fly gloves. easy to get on and off, warm, waterproof - goretex with removable fleece liners.
two weeks use and abuse, a few sessions in a dome and they still look like brand new too.
had separate dakine guards and gloves - that was a right pain in the hole!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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VolklAttivaS5, Hope your feeling better.
I always ride with my Dakine wrist guards after breaking my wrist(s) skiing on plastic. see http://www.surfdome.com/Dakine_Wrist_Guards_-_Black-4806
I guess with hind-sight a helmet is a good plan, having suffered a few sharp heel edge falls resulting in a sore head. Don't worry too much about the brand, rather make sure it fits correctly.
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sherlock235, I use flexmeters and can't recommend them highly enough. I'm currently learning to do rails / rotations from kickers (so falling a lot) and I'm convinced that without them I would have bust one or both of my wrists by now. I agree with the comments above about buying gloves and guards at the same time though - my gloves are VERY snug now I've got the wrist guards on too. I've tried other wrist guards - Level's biomex guards that come with the gloves are pretty comfy but I didn't like Dakine's at all (I've got a pair of Nova gloves with built in guards which I found really uncomfortable on my palms (strangely) when I fell...
I don't really understand why anyone wouldn't want to wear a helmet either. I personally wouldn't board without one. I've got a Protec B2 Scotty Arnold (with built in speakers) which I'm well chuffed with and looks pretty good too.
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I don't bother with padded shorts/knee pads. I do get the odd painfull fall on kness/a*se but not enough to justify the expense or the the extra layer IMO..I don't want to end up like Bibendum (Michelin man)...
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I use Burton Red impact shorts, which are practically invisible under baggy Quiksilver snowpants ... having back bottom and knee protection to stop bruises makes you more confident when practising!
AFAIK my wrists have never been at risk of fractures but having wrist guards ... mmm ... they may make you feel safer which could encourage you to take more risks ...
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Aviator wrote: |
AFAIK my wrists have never been at risk of fractures but having wrist guards ... mmm ... they may make you feel safer which could encourage you to take more risks ... |
Before the flame war begins... let's just all agree that there is no one right answer for everyone, mmm?
Personally I don't wear wrist guards, nor do I plan to. When I fall, I always try to roll over whichever shoulder is going to impact, and get my board in the air so it doesn't catch on the ground. Thus far I have had good results (long may it continue). When falling at very high speed, rolling over the shoulder isn't always a practical possibility, but wrist guards probably wouldn't save me in that case either. Having said that, I'd hate to recommend someone not to wear protective gear and be proven wrong the hard way.
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aviator,
The day I get into tricks and jumps I might invest into impact short/vests, but that is still a few boarding days away. My level is not good enough yet and for what I do on the piste I don't think padded shorts are needed...
And with regards to ending up like Bibendum I meant more about how I felt rather than looked. It's probably just me but I hate feeling like I have bulky things on me. Hence I wear several small layers (base + small fleece + soft shell) rather than a big jacket for example... It's a personal thing..
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I don't really understand why anyone wouldn't want to wear a helmet either
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Meh. Did you really want to say that.
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they may make you feel safer which could encourage you to take more risks ...
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why would that argument apply to wristguards but not to impact shorts and knee protection? Doesn't make sense to me. As for wrists not being at risk of fractures, the statistics of snowboarding accidents suggest otherwise. Few people fracture their coccyx, as opposed to just having a horribly sore a*se, but plenty break their wrists, including people just having a very gentle go on a nursery slope (one young girl I know, a good little skier, broke her wrist in her first ten minutes on an almost flat piste). The fact that scaphoid fractures are so prone to ongoing problems means that anything which reduces the risk of that fracture (the most common in wrists) is worth considering. Falling onto your coccyx, or onto your wrists, are both indicative of falling badly, but most of us do, especially when we're far from expert.
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VolklAttivaS5, bad luck. Glad you haven't written yourself off despite the obvious.
I suppose protection aids are a bit like airbags in cars – they will help, I have no doubt about it, but they won't prevent against everything that can happen.
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Just thinking when I learnt (on the dry slope) I wore wrist guards, knee pads and elbow pads. I gave up on the elbow pads pretty quick as they didn't seem worthwhile. I also wore two pairs of shorts under my trousers with some camping mat stuffed down them protecting the backside. Nowadays as I said on t'other thread it's just the bendy wrist guards that are built into the gloves, problem is the gloves are falling apart, I'm not too happy with this £50 down from £80 and they've only lasted 7 weeks I wonder if it's from carrying the board as it does have fairly sharp edges.
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I have a Leedom helmet, wear a back protector and wear my boxing wraps on my hands (go neatly under gloves). Thinking of investing in some impact pads as concerned for my coccyx as I try to jump off every item in sight. So far so good!
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You know it makes sense.
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Swirly wrote: |
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I don't really understand why anyone wouldn't want to wear a helmet either
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Meh. Did you really want to say that. |
Yep, I stand by it. Why don't people want to wear helmets? Do they think they look cooler without or is there a some percieved way in which it affects ability / movement?
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Do they think they look cooler without
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Yes
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Poster: A snowHead
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gel filled beanies' the way to go - if you have the cash!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rayscoops, this season I'm experimenting with an air filled bin bag, if it works I may try and develop some sort of hot air balloon style device.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Swirly, is that for your head or your @rse ?
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some people dont want to spend 4 days packing all their protective crap.. then spend all morning looking for it and putting it on.. the total freedom of get up , getting your sunglasses and boots and just f..king off on a sunny morning is great.. no backpack full of tools, no 14 gallons of energy drinks, no contour piste map.. no gps.. hell sometime even no lip balm!!!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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CANV CANVINGTON, what about your board?
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CANV CANVINGTON, you too crazy.
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CANV CANVINGTON,
Revolutionnary...That's some brave forward thinking...
Especially in light of all those reports/stats showing the huge number of head injuries among snowboarders...
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Kruisler, may i suggest reducing the chances of smacking your bonce up, by using whats in it
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CANV CANVINGTON,
mmhhh... .....
that's where english as a 2nd language let's me down.
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I have 2 helmets (oo er) both are cool, both make me look like a retard, but I will still wear one as hitting your head hurts.
Although this season I must rememeber to get a pic of me on the piste with my hat as it much more attractive than having a upturned pottie on your head
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