 Poster: A snowHead
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I've come to the conclusion that I'll be cheaper buying a pair of skis than renting everytime I go away. 3 - 5 trips a year.
I've kind of stuck to renting rossignol B78's since I read that they are pretty good 50/50 skis. But now I really want to improve on piste and was wondering what a good ski is to buy. Yes, occassionaly I like to do a bit off piste but mainly sticking to the pistes looking to improve on turns and controlling speed. Also, I'm 5'8 and 12st so was wondering about size. Is 165-168 a good size ?
Hope someone can help.
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Personally at your weight and level I'd go for something perhaps in the 170-180 range but length remains a very personal issue and also depends what you are used to etc. Skis tend to be getting sold very short for my personal preferences so that's sorta down to you. I am a big fan of the Nordica Hot Rod range so i'd have a look at that-take a look at them I they stock them in Ellis B-they come in a large range of waist sizes and remain a pretty forgiving ski. No doubt someone else will be along to give you advice of other sorts but those are mine.
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You can tell I'm still learning. I feel that something in the 170-180 range will be harder to control than something in the 165-168 size ? The thought behind this being the smaller in length they are the easier to control. OK, have I lost the plot completely 
I skied rossignol b78 in a 165 size.
I'll check out these Nordica's ...........
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Yeh of course but as you increase in ability etc you will find yourself wanting to go faster, with length comes more stability at speed. Maybe a 172 could be a good length to look at if you are concerned about going too long.
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The thought behind this being the smaller in length they are the easier to control. OK, have I lost the plot completely
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No, you haven't. You're right, especially if you want to concentrate mostly on piste and on tight controlled turns. The slalom skiers use very short skis these days and they know a thing or two! However, the most important factor is your instructor, rather than your skis - though if you go on so many trips you should improve FAST! The right size for you partly depends a bit on the model of ski though - I expect lots of people will come along with advice, most of them suggesting you go somewhere you can try out different models before buying.
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Yeah don't get me wrong head to xscape or wherever and try some skis but my points remain valid. You were right in thinking shorter skis are easier to control apologies for not validating that point.
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Kiltedlad try a few pairs out in resort and get the ones you get on with. Most shops will let you swap your rentals and even discount the rental if you buy some. The rossis you have been using are regarded as an easy ski to get on with you might find a more advanced set up a bit challenging.
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Really like what I'm reading about the Nordica Eliminator. Size 170. Not a ski I would have considered but the write up does seem to sound a bit like me. Could be a winner..........
Thank you everyone for all your help. Amazing site ! now looking at a longer ski and a brand I would never have thought about. 
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The eliminator "It’s the ultimate all-mountain option for adventurous intermediates and lighter-weight advanced skiers".
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My husband is an 'advanced intermediate' on piste and at 12st, 5'10" he skis on 165's - they're Volkl racetigers. However, we have been skiing for 5 years or so (3 times a year) and have always had 'shortish' skis. As Pam says - you will learn faster on shorter skis. Plus on piste skis give a lot better edge grip and you can do nifty short turns, long carves etc.
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Erica, you calling me short and fat
Yeah I've been told to check out Volkl too. Just so many different brands on the market these days.
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Kiltedlad, No 
A lot of people like K2s but we've found these have quite a 'flat' feel. The volkls are very bouncy and energetic. Such fun!
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Yes i agree. I tried them for a couple of days in Verbier then went onto the rossignol b78 which i enjoyed better. But, I know there is a perfect ski out there for me 
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You know it makes sense.
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Kiltedlad,
If you are thinking about the Nordica Hotrod Eliminator they are now only £220 at Ellis Brigham. Down from £390 and they have them in 170cm. Check out the website. Might go for the 178's myself. Bargain
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Kiltedlad, I went through a very similar thought process to yours a couple of years back, wanting skis with good on piste performance but still with enough width to make off piste forays OK. I moved from some older Salomon 1080 noodles to Volkl AC3 (now AC30) and they have delivered exactely what I wanted. I'd strongly recommend a test of these for you.
erica2004, I completely agree with you!
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks guys !!!!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Ski length much depends on the type of ski you choose.
A 50-50 Allmountain ski i'd say would be around 175 at your height.
An 80-20 Allround carver around 165-170
And finally a full-on piste carver 160-165.
The best plan for you is to hire once more, and then test out as many skis as they let you.
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