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explain flex angles please

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i tried on a comfy pair of boots (Nordica SM8 - i have a narrow heel and struggle to get snugness around there). Im a bit of a lightweight girly and im not sure maybe they are too stiff. The flex number (angle?) was 80. Im an intermediate (reds but have a odd shot at blacks), but i only weigh about 53kg so not awful lot of power. Im looking for something that is a bit forgiving of my loads of enthusiasm but maybe not the most consistent style. Any advice much appricated
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The higher the number the stiffer the boot, although it's not always possible to compare the flex of boots in different brands because manufacturers do not yet measure flex ratings in exactly the same way. A race boot would have a flex rating of 150-160ish, a stiff recreational boot somewhere around 110, and 80 is a soft recreational boot. My girlfriend has the SM8s and found them a little bit stiff (she's lightweight and doesn't have great technique) so had a good bootfitter (who posts here as CEM) make some adjustments to soften them a little.
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Manufacturers do since, 2007/8 measure flex in the same way, with the noteable exception of Lange/Rossingnol.
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had a good bootfitter (who posts here as CEM) make some adjustments to soften them a little.

did he sit on them and bounce up and down a bit? wink
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pam w wrote:
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had a good bootfitter (who posts here as CEM) make some adjustments to soften them a little.

did he sit on them and bounce up and down a bit? wink


"soften them a little", not crush them... Wink Wink Wink
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SMALLZOOKEEPER wrote:
Manufacturers do since, 2007/8 measure flex in the same way, with the noteable exception of Lange/Rossingnol.


so if a boot model is still current, might you find a 2006 and 2008 model, although identical, marked with a different flex value?
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rob@rar wrote:
The higher the number the stiffer the boot, although it's not always possible to compare the flex of boots in different brands because manufacturers do not yet measure flex ratings in exactly the same way. A race boot would have a flex rating of 150-160ish, a stiff recreational boot somewhere around 110, and 80 is a soft recreational boot. My girlfriend has the SM8s and found them a little bit stiff (she's lightweight and doesn't have great technique) so had a good bootfitter (who posts here as CEM) make some adjustments to soften them a little.


I have womens' Head S8, the choice of flex is 70/80 (I think), is this really regarded this as a soft recreational boot?? Here's what one dealer said about the boot:
S8 HeatFit Lady
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Head S8 HeatFit Ladies Ski Boots For Sale Material: U material, Bi-injection cuff and shell
Buckles: race buckle, made of aluminium with micro-setting and macro-setting on the cuff
Technology: 2-Position flex adjustment, canting, women cuff
Inner Boot: asymmetric HeatFit, Bi-Injected tongue, new soft toe box pile lining
Insole: anatomical fit insole
Skill: very good skiers
Terrain: 50% deep snow, off-piste, 50% groomed slopes
Style: very good skiing techniqu
Speed: medium
Flex Index: 7.1 (hard) & 6.1 (soft)
Sizes: 23,0-23,5-…-27,0
Colors: ice/ice

Looking in the current EB catalogue, for example, there seem to be many women's boots with lower flex index values. What would they be classed as, carpet slippers??
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bitoffluff, I am about your size (5 ft 2 and 50kg). I have had conflicting advice about my boots, which have a Flex Index of 85. The advice I had was that for my weight, they are too stiff, but I do tend to ski quite aggressively (I have to to keep up with Mr Docsquid). I find that when I am going for it, the flex is not progressive enough i.e. you reach the limit of the boot's flex quite rapidly and then your shins bang on the front of the boot quite uncomfortably. So, given that, I should probably have a boot with a higher flex index, so the flex is more progressive and it doesn't just bang my shins against the front of the boot. I wouldn't think 80 would be too stiff, even for a lightweight.

I guess ideally I'd have two pairs of boots - one with a softer flex for skiing more gently, instructing beginners and for off piste, and one for going fast on piste.

I suppose I'll just have to go with a stiffer pair of boots, but undo them a bit when I'm pootling.
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