touring binding alpine boot?

A snowHead

Can an alpine boot be used with a touring binding?
But not the other way round?
So, makes sense to get touring bindings if thinking about doing touring in future?

A snowHead

Yes, with any touring binding apart from Dynafits.

However, it's not recommended for the other way round... touring boots in alpine bindings are a bad idea.

Is it sensible to get them now if you want to tour in the future? Short answer: No, they pretty much suck for skiing in and give you a good excuse to buy even more skis later. I guess the real answer is: it depends. Lots of people do but it's a sacrifice.

As discussed many times the reason touring bindings are poor to ski in: they have a higher stack height off the ski and they suffer from slop or 'wobble'. Marker Duke / Barons go some way to reduce these issues but by improving the way they ski the skining / touring performance is reduced...

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So, the reason people use touring bindings is purely for the uphill bit and they settle for them because it's the only way?
Surely someone must have come up with a decent touring binding?

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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.

everything is a compromise - even the alpine bindings you are using unless they are proper race bindings.

the duke skis excellently and is fine for uncomplicated skinning

dynafits ski excellently but only work with compatible boots (there are lots of really good looking compatible boots coming out next season though). probably not recommended for the likes of parlor who just can't stop himself from jumping off things Wink

also DIN only goes up to 10 (but a 12 model coming out next year - think that's right, no doubt someone will correct me if not) so not great if you are big, want to use that set up to ski aggressively but don't want to lock the binding completely

i wouldn't bother with fritschis or naxos now but plenty of people like them

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comprex, depends how you measure "best" compromise Cool

After all it is free

touring boots in alpine bindings are no bother as long as you're a bit careful and adjust bindings to accomodate. you'll see a fair few patrollers about who do just that and if you consider their mileage and terrain mix to that of an average punter then it's gotta be ok. That said, why would you bother (unless you are actually a patroller, necessitating running about in the snow more than we would)

to be honest the difference between skiing both types of bindings arent all that noticeable to the average punter, or at least the positive/negative differences between the two aint that great. ok there are some times I wish i wasnt as high in my bindings when i'm on AT but not so much as to make me enjoy the day any less, and the versatility more than makes up for it. Depends on what you're happiest with, personally if was I was ever told (which I NEVER will be!) that i was only allowed one setup, I would go AT boots and AT binding - and I am by no means a hardcore tourer, more of a potterer who still uses the lifts for probably the majority of my time spent on the hill. That's just personal preference. (that said I do want to get even more gear in the future and have at telemarking!)

try a few setups if you can and don't overthink it. This place is full of advice - and it's a pretty useless excercise normally to find uniform advice on here!!

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Not sure anyone will warrant safety on a non ISO sole in an alpine binder.

Tele is a great compromise but its neither completely efficient on the way up or down, although full pivot tele bindings are now emerging. Aesthetically however you do get more face shots, in my case due to diving over the tips of the skis wink

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Use boots with switchable alpine / touring sole to get the best of both worlds.

You know it makes sense.

..doh

Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:

Arno,

done this myself plenty of times (AT boots in downhill bindings) without issue and fell over more than once too! I no longer do this as have now permanent matches for my booties and my bindies.
I take the point that they aint supposed to be compatible, but if you're careful it's doable and they do fit, good enough for me (and hence my eyes are wide open as you rightly suggest). And i would suggest that there aint a huge number of complete beginners (relatively) talking about buiying dedicated touring gear as their first kit, therefore those who do want AT stuff for the most part will have at least one eye open

Though of course I do recognise there are far more favourable options. I guess I just don't like seeing folk getting conned into buying kit for every (minute) change in terrain / style / whatever - and make no mistake about it there is an element of this practice within ski equipment (as with pretty much every thing consumerish) - though actually experience has thought me that if you do get conned in such fashion where ski gear is concerned, you actually end up being happy about it on account of all the shiny gear you've got! Very Happy

see what i mean about the quantity vs. quality (or at least diversity) of advice on here (ignore my tag line below by the way!!) Laughing

GordonFreeman, whichever direction you end up going, hope you get good deals and enjoy it

A snowHead

GordonFreeman, Try Tele. Then the boots and bindings are the same snowHead

I've lost count of the times I've not adjusted Mrs Skis Fritschi - equipped Phat Luvs to the boots she's deigned to wear that day rolling eyes

A snowHead

Beefy touring boot with ISO or Vibram sole...will take about 5 mins to change the soles...
Still needs a degree of planning though..so you need to get out 15 mins before the others for this faff

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