 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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All seems quite cheap when compared to rail travel in the UK 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| magic_hat wrote: |
Anyone else looked at the cost of Ryan Air flights for next winter?
Liverpool - Venice coming in at £33 return for January.. sounds great. Until you add in £75 extra if you want to take any luggage with you! |
Lets put things into perspective here - Newcastle to Sheffield is £80 return by train. 
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Smokin Joe, couldn't agree more. As a friend of mine found out to his cost, the walk up fare for London to Ipswich is £61 return.
I really don't get all this stamping of feet and foaming at the mouth going on.
Ryanair can charge exactly what they want, if you don't like it find someone else, it's not hard. No-one has a right to cheap flights or free ski carraige.
I'm a bit bemused by all this ranting.
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how much would it be to courier skis/baggage from your house to the resort? sure i saw a service along these lines somewhere. i am sure ryanair will always keep themselves a bit cheaper than that, but i'd pay a few quid just to avoid the hassle of lugging everything to the airport
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Walk up for Darlington to London £238
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I'm fortunate enough to mostly travel with hand-luggage only, so paying for different aspects of the flight separately is a good thing for me.
I tend not to look at the prices quoted by whatever airline I'm looking at until the final stage of the process (ditto car hire). It's the total cost that is the only important factor, so how it is broken down isn't too relevant.
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But can I take my boots and helmet on as hand luggage?
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Arno, anyone with the cash to set up a ski storage and servicing operation in the Alps, close to the major airports could be onto a winner. Frosty the Snowman, as our logistics expert, we would also need transport between the airports for people choosing to arrive at a different airport next winter.
A link up with tour ops would be good too.
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I agree that the price is not all that bad (and i may well actually be booking the flights today).
My issue is that it makes shopping around almost impossible. You can't just sit down for an hour, scan all the websites and then compare like for like costs. Not when you actually have to spend 20 minutes going all the way through the booking process for a single airline before you find out the real charge. It turns a simple comparing process into a half day chore.
Why not just have the baggage options available right from the start so that the price you see is the price you will be paying.
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Helen Beaumont, i have thought about this in the past but never quite worked out how to make it profitable enough to keep me in the style to which i have become accustomed 
that said, the swiss rail/post/bus system has quite a cool thing where you can drop your kit off at a station/major bus stop and it will get delivered to whichever other station/bus stop you require
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Helen Beaumont, People transport!!!...ooh no, I think you need THIS person
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I always calculate the total travel cost from A to B because travelling to the airports, parking can work out to be a huge extra on the flight itself!!
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You know it makes sense.
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BA price to Treviso is now about the same as Ryanair, taking into account the extras. However Ryanair do a very late return flight so I can ski all day in the Dolomites before returning.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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stanton, I thought that such an environmentally conscious campaigner as yourself didn't fly anyway? And certainly doesn't own a car, so what exactly are the parking charges you refer to?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Actually I just priced the Venice (Marco Polo or Treviso) trip from London (return) with skis and Ryanair were £135 (£74 of that baggage), Easyjet (summer prices) £213 (£43 of that baggage) and BA were £101.60 (no extra for baggage). BA clearly the cheapest (but no late night flight - 7.30pm the latest they do).
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 20-06-08 11:29; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Helen Beaumont, a good idea, but doesn't it alreday exist? It's called ski hire... 
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Trouble is you can't hire off piste skis in the Dolomites - not even semi-fats (Our experience of ski rental Arabba: assistant pointing to some wide skis in for repair "off piste - crazy!")
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Ryan air do a lot of v. early and v. late flights to airports that are very handy for short ski trips..
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snowball, Then take your own skis and pay for the privilege! The OP price seemed ok, but I remember the old days when flight from UK to Ireland was £200 each way! That was over 25 years ago when BA and Aer Lingus had no competion, now there is competition and it is considerably cheaper.
I have a gripe with the airlines that do not show the full and final price, but it is certainly cheaper than years ago. For everyone that is moaning about the ridiculous cost of the fair for their winter trip, just remember what it was really like in the bad old days of no competition!!! London - Venice 25 years ago, probably about the price of your left kidney! 
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| Roy Hockley wrote: |
| probably about the price of your left kidney! |
Which is more expensive than most snowHead livers, I imagine.
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Roy Hockley, I remember those days as well, & flying to Europe, unless you were including a saturday night in your stay, the price was extortionate  Even with a saturday it wasnt much better.
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Yes, air travel is amazingly cheap still compared with what it used to be. That Saturday night rule was a real killer. London-Munich cheapest fare was always £200+ in the 80s and Italy way more than that. Comparing like-for-like I reckon that computes to £400 or more today (certainly the average wage must have more than doubled). I'd like to see the moaners start their own airline.
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| magic_hat wrote: |
I agree that the price is not all that bad (and i may well actually be booking the flights today).
My issue is that it makes shopping around almost impossible. You can't just sit down for an hour, scan all the websites and then compare like for like costs. |
In which case, phone up a travel agent and pay them to do that for you. The problem is, we're expecting to get something for nothing. Unfortunately you either put the legwork in, or pay someone else to do it for you.
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Despite the new prices Ryanair is still best for my Dolomites trip.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Despite the new prices Ryanair is still best for my Dolomites trip. Basically, given global warming, it is probably a good thing if ultra cheap flights end.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Despite the new prices Ryanair is still best for my Dolomites trip. Basically, given global warming, it is probably a good thing if ultra cheap flights end.
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| Elizabeth B wrote: |
| magic_hat wrote: |
I agree that the price is not all that bad (and i may well actually be booking the flights today).
My issue is that it makes shopping around almost impossible. You can't just sit down for an hour, scan all the websites and then compare like for like costs. |
In which case, phone up a travel agent and pay them to do that for you. The problem is, we're expecting to get something for nothing. Unfortunately you either put the legwork in, or pay someone else to do it for you. |
That's still not what i am getting at. I want to be able to do it myself... my problem is that you have to go all the way through the booking process with Ryan Air (i.e. you have to enter all your details, your address, all your booking information etc etc) before you get a total price. There is absolutely no reason that price can't be displayed before you get all the way through to the end screen.
I am not expecting to get something for nothing at all. The prices are the prices and i expect to pay more to take skis... but i expect to be able to find out the cost of this without having to complete multiple screens of information filling and virtually complete the booking.
Last edited by So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much  on Fri 20-06-08 14:32; edited 1 time in total
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You know it makes sense.
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genepi, Book a month ahead of time and a Saturday night, thats correct! Apex or somehting, times have surely changed!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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David Murdoch, but the ski are not yours, and the boots............ well we wouldn't want hire boots would we?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| Helen Beaumont, People transport!!!...ooh no, I think you need THIS person |
NOOO............ Ski transport.
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Helen Beaumont, send them by air, only £30-£60
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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magic_hat, ah, right. Sorry. I don't use ryanair, so wasn't aware that you couldn't get that info. Easyjet publish it before you log in.
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magic_hat, I suspect that part of the reason behind this is RyanAir wanting to make it difficult for price comparison software to use their website.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Elizabeth B wrote: |
| magic_hat, ah, right. Sorry. I don't use ryanair, so wasn't aware that you couldn't get that info. Easyjet publish it before you log in. |
No problem!
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If sending skis to the Alps by courier bears any relation to the cost of sending a rather small parcel a few miles across England, you might as well buy a new pair when you get there. I imagine that big hikes in ski carriage costs will do wonders for the ski hire business. Most resorts in France, even quite small ones, seem to have a reasonable choice of skis. French skiers, even those who ski every year, mostly seem to hire skis; that's why even small resorts have so many ski hire shops, I suppose.
FWIW there's a comprehensive list of FAQs including all baggage charges and other fees on the front page of Ryanair's website.
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More important things to be angry about...
Just my two cents.
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Please stop flying with cheap airlines . They may be convenient but they are harming your kids & there kids.
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They are not cheap airlines. They are "no frills airlines".
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