Poster: A snowHead
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Anyone know where I can buy some Movement Gladiators from?
I tried these in Morzine in April and thought they were great.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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mountainspirit.co.uk in aviemore
they may just point you direct to distributor considering your location noblecustom.co.uk
brilliant skis, I bought 2 pairs, 1 were a local pro's cast offs via ebay, 2nd pair from mountain spirit complete with touring setup.
you could maybe get them from one of the German / Italian internet stores too
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GordonFreeman,
Its all relative... if you have 300 weeks under your belt, you're not going to be troubled by an ski in any condition. Most of us might need a little help but if your stats and skill set suit the ski then you can probably jump a level or two...
So, if you are an 20-25 week skier, you might find the ski needs a specific input ...and although you may be able to do that on fast cruisey pistes, you might not be able to get them round off it.
IMV, fatter skis need riding rather that skiing and if you try to ski them old skool, you'll need strenght AND technique, whereas a lot of skis respond well enough if you point them and hang on...
For example, how do you ski off-piste, do you bounce and get the tips up or just wait for the tip to rise and glide round in a bigger arc...? silly little things like this might make a ski easier or harder to use.. IMO.
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Well, on piste I am strictly trying to carve unless I'm in the moguls of course Sometimes using short sharp turns down a slope.
Off piste, I have only just started recently but I prefer a similar approach gliding and long turns wherever possible. I can do short sharp turns if necessary.
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Skiied the goliath 191 this year and owned a pair since they came out, theyre actually one of the softer fat planks out there and super easy to ride, now if youre talking of the old powpow's then........
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> theyre actually one of the softer fat planks out there
wow... you think so
super interesting spreadsheet here with scientifically measured flex indexes of most 2008 skis.
2007
http://www.endrehals.no/Flexcurves%202007.pdf
2008
http://www.friflyt.no/files/SFI_2008.pdf
personally i found the goliath to be too stiff for anything but perfect conditions and huge open spaces.
though i am big fan of the thunder and spark.
guess its all down to personal preference at end of the day.
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So, in fact the reviews about the gladiator being stiff and difficult to ski are rubbish?
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GordonFreeman,
Who knows unless you have tried them and can ski them how you would normally expect to ski.
I did buy some skis once that were 'out of my league' and they held me back quite a lot at the time. Whether today's skis do that or these skis will do that
probably only you will know.
If you have 20-25 weeks and have been used to 170's then I would say these skis could be a big step up... It is all conjecture tho'
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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GordonFreeman, you've skied them so what do you think?
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You know it makes sense.
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ok, I've got 5 days under my belt on the gladiators now so time for a quick update. quite strange at first, I found them unresponsive and hard to turn. I've been used to pocket rockets which are very floppy, and the movement flames which are as stiff as the gladiators but much narrower underfoot. After a couple of runs though they really clicked and I was away. I'm not a good enough skiier to give info about the nuances etc, but I *LOVE* these skis, they are great both on and off piste. I've had some time off the slopes so a friend borrowed the for one day - he too has pocket rockets and was thinking of hiring some narrow skis for the piste work now the snow's stopped falling, so I suggested he try mine rather than pay for the hire. like me, he reported that he struggled for the first couple of runs but then it clicked and he also is very impressed, to the extent that he's on them again today as I'm not skiing again. I like them and I think they'll be my de facto ski of choice for quite some time, they handle well enough on piste at the moment tht they should make me a good one-ski quiver. They do need to be skiied quite aggressively on pistes rather then just being ridden as suggested above so maybe not skis for the beginner, but if you're looking for a do-it-all ski then consider the gladiator
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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Used the Glads for 2 weeks now and here are a few thoughts. Off-piste, they are very good... solid and stable and you can get some charging going...just let them plane up and ride them so good confidence here.
You can of course, sling them around in tight spots as they are easy to engage and release well with the TT.
On piste.....well, get used to them as the TT is no help here IMV.. the tail can let go a little so care needs to be taken to get the TT lenght right. For me, I'd say the ski is a little short at 183, so I don't really want to bang them really fast. This is ok...once you know, but I'd say I have found my skis speed limit on-piste. tho'
For what I am interested in doing they are very good and I am sure I will get into them more. I take the point that you need to ski them on-piste so work the edges and they'll respond. Moguls are fine, surprisingly, crappy snow, they'll roll over, no problem.
I just have to reign in my expectations that they should handle hardpark like a Stockl...
If it is boiler plate and no other options, then I'd be tempted to hire a Race ski and it is unfair to expect the Gladiator to be able to do it all....as ever..
Liking them..
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If you don't venture into the Park at all, I would have thought some of the other Movement models (eg. Spark and Thunder) would make even better all mountain choices than the Gladiator?
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Would some Look PX12's go well with the Movement Gladiator's?
If the brakes are not wide enough, can the shop fit some wider ones?
...or Marker M41 ?
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