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just looking into next winter's trips and looks like I can get some well timed/priced flights to zurich from London city while I'm up there at Excel for the boat show in january
can anyone tell me which resorts are easiest to get to from zurich? train/coach or car? and how long are the transfers?
planning on a late fri or early sat am flight, back late sunday so want to minimise transfer times
thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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tick - subscribing to this thread as we can fly direct to zurich from manchester and have family in that area....
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Go to j2ski.com. Click on the "Airports" section.
Go to St Moritz, Klosters or Lech. In that order.
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Whitegold thanks for that but i am sometimes suspicious of j2ski's transfer times
nbt maybe see you in Zurich airport then!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Agree with J2 ski, but none of the above resorts are either particularly close or cheap.
Flims is closer and has good skiing, Andermatt is nice but needs good coverage in Jan. Flumersberg and Hochy Brig ? spelling are recommended by others but I have never been as they are close by and relatively small they may get a little crowded at the weekend I guess.
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I have only been to Engelberg when I have flown to Zurich. I have used both train and hire car to get there.
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T Bar thanks
rjs how long is it to Engelberg by car? Is the train an option for a weekend trip? thanks
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From Zurich (not for a weekend) I've done Wengen/Grindelwald, Flims, Davos and Crans Montana. Can't remember any of the transfer times though 
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Zurich to Wengen is about 3 hrs. Did it last year MSB. Plane landed 6:30, hit the slope before noon. That's including unpacking and a little refreshment at the hotel (I was there a week, not just Sat/Sun).
If you fly in Friday evening, you have a much better chance of hitting the slope at a decent time Sat.
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thanks all, i'll have a look at the resorts mentioned
abc fri eve arrival is favourite option for sure
i'll probably end up renting a car and can then be flexible and may even try a day at a couple of different resorts
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Engelberg & Andermatt seem to attract a lot of Zurichers at weekends so I assume people day trip. I guess the places around Chur & Davos etc aren't exactly a long haul either.
I've done cars for weekends but largely due to flight arrival times rather than inherent inaccessibility - everything is accessible by train/postbus in CH as I'm sure you're aware.
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Roger C, My Better Half 'weekended ' London City - Zurich a lot this year ( 'cos we were in Gstaad Super-ski) ... train is easiest as door-to-door is usually ( ioe) quicker .... so Engelberg, Davos, Klosters, maybe Laax (but bus for last bit) , Jungfrau, Gstaad, Lenk, St Moritz, Zermatt ( yes!) would all be on your radar ..
ps Air France invariably cheapest by far
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You know it makes sense.
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fatbob thanks, i'll look into those, engleberg seems to be a popular suggestion
Agenterre, cheers, i was planning on using swiss but will now check out air france as well,
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Roger C, trains run to engelberg pretty late but there is an irritating 45 minute wait at Lucerne. as a result i usually hire a car
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Poster: A snowHead
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Agenterre, just checked Air France for a trip in a couple of weeks and Swiss is marginally cheaper with more convenient flight times for me. Also have Swiss frequent flyer card (not that I am but one can but hope) but it's interesting to know you've found it cheaper so it will be worth a look for future trips
Roger C, nbt, let us know if you head for Laax or Hoch-Ybrig. HY needs a car, FYI, but that means it doesn't get crowded out with Zurcher without cars. It's pretty small, but fine for a day or so, and I gather there's lots of backcountry too
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eng_ch, On average x1.5-3 as cheap but her/ my trips were usually done on Mondays / Fridays ... December - March admittedly ... During the winter schedule ( now summer), AF and Swiss flights always seemed to depart within 5-15 minutes of one another.
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Agenterre, the out for me is an hour later on Swiss than AF and that's the difference between getting a lift into the city (good) and having to be on a train at sparrow's fart (bad).
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Roger C,
Zurich to Engelberg...an easy peasy 90 mins by car, IMV.
Basle to Engelberg is about the same.
Not sure about Andermatt from Zurich by car but is over an hr up a pass from Engelberg because you have to come down the hill, virtually into Lucern and then out again.. plus it is a high pass through mountains.
Haven't done train from Zurich-Andermatt but have from Engelberg and it can be a hassle that way. However, it is a main line through to the south so they must have sorted Zurich-Andermatt direct.
The only thing about Andermatt is that it isn't a place you can get the best out of just by scoping it, IMV... you have to put some time in which you might not have for a weekend. Also, it is very rocky and needs good cover. The pistes aren't inspiring and you can say the same about Engelberg but at least you get more done in a weekend.
I'd be taking a look a Flims if only for the option of mileage if you get lumbered with those conditions.
Zurich/Basel to Engelberg by train, best part of 2 hrs and that is with a change/stop at Lucern. Not seen 45 mins tho' normally 20 mins, IIRC.
Zurich has a train station under the airport...Basel does not and is a good 20mins away by cab/bus. You can get a train direct from Zurich airport to Lucern but sometimes have to chnge at Zurich central
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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JT, main N-S trains go under Andermatt through the Gotthard tunnel. Car v much better option IMV and will get easier in 3-4 years when the new motorway towards Zug is finished. No need to touch Lucerne by car direct from Zurich airport - cut down the E side of Lake Lucerne on m'way, peel off at Göschenen and head up the mountain
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I ski often in Flumserberg which is (I think) the nearest largish resort and although its busier at weekends it usually copes ok with the crowds. I've not skied many of the other places above other than Laax which is a pretty big ski area. If you decide on Flumserberg then stay in Tannenboden (this is where the main gondola arrives) as its all close to the lifts (walking distance). www.flumserberg.ch , eat at the Cafrida mmmm 
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thanks Frosty, hpw long from the airport to Flumserberg?
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eng_ch, thanks, might do that. said family is in the UK and coming for tea tomorow so we will discuss the possiblity of a reciprocal visit next winter
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Roger C, one hour fifteen minutes, in case you are not familiar with the airport the train station is undeneath the terminal building which cuts down time again. There is only one change at Zurich HB (the main station). The reason Flums is busier at weekends is the close proximity to Zurich. If you rent a car it takes about the same time in my experience, the train is the best option as you get out at the bottom of the cable car/gondola. Just check the gondola is still running if you are arriving later in the evening. There is a bus if neeccesary.
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thanks for all the advice above but despite this next weekend we are going to Arosa for the weekend!
any advice there, best runs etc? i know it's further from Zurich but we got a good deal at a chalet that i've heard good things about, www.snowypockets.com
at the end of the month we are going to try engleberg 
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really, come on how many trips can one person have?
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