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Which ski lift would you like upgraded?

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I would like the Balme chair, which links Serre Chevalier 1400 to Monetier-les-Bains.
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Every t-bar on the face of the planet - sorry to be facetious Helen, real answer is the Snowflake ( ?? ) lift in Breckenridge
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The nutcracker(don't know the proper name, sorry!) in Le Fornet sector of Val d'Isere.

Some of the old two man chairs on Blackcomb mountain.

The really slow and long three man chair from Stuben back to St Anton, which always ends up with a massive crowd around it at the end of a day.

The problem is that if you replace all these lifts, then the areas suddenly become easier to get to, and so more crowded, and so lose a lot of their attractiveness.
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The long t-bar on the Saas Fee glacier Shocked
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The Tuffs chair in Tignes Val Claret. Is strategically really usefull but rather slow.
However I have a suspicion it's being replaced this year anyway so i'll shut up now.
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the 2 man chair at Puy Saint vincent, goes from 2000m to 2750m

its a old slow 2 man, [ wooden seats ] and it proppa smacks u right in the back of the knee!

it takes forever to get ther :@ and its the only route to one of the best runs
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I'd have to say the Vega chairlift in La Plagne. Like Fezza said about his nomination, it's an old 2 man wooden rickety effort that near knocks yer kneecaps out. It's the slowest lift in the resort, and after being sat on it last year when it was -25C with another -9C on the windchill, I would be glad to never go near the bloody thing again!!!
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Its got to be the two man chair lift in sauze, you all know the one. The one where you have to take your skis off and carry them under your arm with you poles as well. Smile
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Kranjska gora, there is a single seater chair lift which, if I remember correctly, rolling eyes you have to ride side saddle!!
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The T-Bar at Birg,Murren,Switzerland
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Every t-bar on the face of the planet


are t bars bad?
never been on one.

are they worser than drag lifts?
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fezza, T-bars are infinitely worse than drag lifts! You always seem to end up sharing one with someone who is much taller or much shorter than you, or someone who wants to ski on your side of the drag line. Either of these situations means a constant battle with your T-bar companion as you ride up the hill. I'd like to see all the T-bars on the Tignes glacier replaced - drag lifts would be OK if chairlifts weren't possible.
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Two strong candidates at Les Diablerets: (i) The chairlift that links the Meilleret ski area in Les D. with Villars - old slow 2 seater chair that's permanently in shadow, so painfully cold; (ii) the Le Laouissalet T Bar that brings you back to the Les D side of the mountain - major bottleneck from mid-afternoon onwards. Both look to be 10-20 years overdue for replacement. I read on one of the French language ski websites that Les Diablerets' coffers are bare, so apparently no immediate prospects of improvement.
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fezza,
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the 2 man chair at Puy Saint vincent, goes from 2000m to 2750m
its a old slow 2 man, [ wooden seats ] and it proppa smacks u right in the back of the knee!
it takes forever to get ther :@ and its the only route to one of the best runs


Maybe that's why it's one of the best runs Little Angel

If you look in the Ski Esprit brochure they show the top of the Pendine as being a nice detachable quad!
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Chris Brookes wrote:
The T-Bar at Birg,Murren,Switzerland


Amen.
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The 4 man Arpette Chair up out of Bellecote in La Plagne could use an upgrade since it's now the main link back to Les Arcs via the Vanoise Express as well as being a pretty busy lift even before Paradiski opened. It's not old or even very slow but just overwhelmed by volume of traffic at times. Needs to be a fast 6 pack or maybe better another 4 seater running parallel.
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I 'd like to see the lifts taken out Very Happy

Getting back to the subject

>>>The really slow and long three man chair from Stuben back to St Anton, which always ends up with a massive crowd around it at the end of a day <<<<

This is in the planning. There were rumours it was going to be done in 2003 ( New Chair with Bubble for wind Protection) but its been put back till ???????????? Probably due to overspend on the Nasserein Gondola (Construction delays) & wasting there money on the new GambergBahn on Rendl.
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kuwait_ian, I'd agreee with that one.
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I'll agree with kuwait_ian as I may be using that one a few times reasonably soon. Otherwise I'd say the small cable car up to the Youla at Courmayeur.
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Helen, Am now super scared of the lift you mentioned at the top of this post... how on earth is that thing a drag lift, i wont have any quads left by the top!!

I also agree with kuwait_ian!!
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There's a T bar at Denton (or near it) in Austria. As far as I know it is one of the longest in Europe, at around 3km.

But, the lift I'd like to see upgraded is the left hand one in Xscape, Milton Keynes. It's about 1000m too short. snowHead
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Wouldn't you need the MK piste extended first, or are you planning a parachute decent to the current one?
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Wouldn't you need the MK piste extended first?


That was what I was implying! snowHead
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WTFH - you mean Dienten, and yep it's very long. I will be going there this Feb but skiing rather than boarding that day! There's also a long T-Bar at Galtur that I think was or is the longest in Austria. There's no excuse for any resort to have T-Bars nowadays apart from maybe on glaciers where they need to be moveable. The Yanks don't have any so why should we?
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Agreed:-

Gjspain, the Clotes 2-man in Sauze
Kramer, the 3-man up from Stuben in StAnton
Helen Beaumont, the 3-man connection to Monetier in Serre Che
plus, my personal gripe:
The twin 2-man at Sportinia in Sauze
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most of the lifts in Sauze rolling eyes
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The conveyor belt in Val D, going up to the new 24 man gondola and the funicular, it nearly ate Sam when everyone fell off on top of him.
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The problem with updating lifts is that it simply makes the pistes more congested and as Kramer says, spoils the character of the runs.

Eventually it leads to more congestion, wider pistes uprated lifts etc. Just like the M25 ?

Perhaps what we should be doing is replacing chairs with T bars and T bars with rope tows - that would probably enhance the actual skiing !
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Peter S, absolutely ! - can we replace the new Herse chair at the Grands Montets with a drag....
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The 4 man Arpette Chair up out of Bellecote in La Plagne could use an upgrade since it's now the main link back to Les Arcs


Yup, seen some horrendous queues there, and on the Colosses opposite it that leads you back over towards Plagne Centre when it's getting to about 15 mins before the lifts go off
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Wear The Fox Hat wrote:
There's a T bar at Denton (or near it) in Austria. As far as I know it is one of the longest in Europe, at around 3km.

But, the lift I'd like to see upgraded is the left hand one in Xscape, Milton Keynes. It's about 1000m too short. snowHead


wtfh Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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magicrichard, that's a chairlift now, not a drag, it's just slow, long and very cold. Charlatanefc, I remember( i think) when the Colosses was a nasty long drag, awful then, better now.
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We should all be using touring bindings and skins.

I agree that the upgrade in Rendl was a complete waste of money, it never seems to get that busy.
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IN the US the lift companys have found that by replacing there lifts with high speeds people were getting there kicks on the slopes in less hours so were only by 1/2 day tickets .
This has resulted in 1/2 day ski passes being hiked to be more representive of 3/4 day Price .
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I think I read somewhere that there is now a safety regulation regarding long steep drags lifts, which means that they will have to be replaced by other forms of up-hill transport. I can see the large resorts complying with this eventually, but not the smaller ones, they just don't have the money.
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Chris, essentially anywhere in France that a drag lift exceeds a 60% gradient it will need to be replaced. I believe this to be a fine example of the state imposing standards for the benefit of all. Of course, anyone who disagrees with state intervention doesn't have to use them.
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Gjspain,
Caspar,

What is wrong with us Puzzled Only two votes!!!!

Has to be the most bizarre and worst chair in Europe. Evil or Very Mad
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The Grand Nord chair here in LDA - long, slow, uncomfortable (wood and metal) and with footrests that no-one over the age of 8 can use. It also runs on diesel and is noisy & smelly! Very useful position though. Madeye-Smiley

Also the 2 man Cretes chair. Ideally placed for beginners but with a horrid, steep, short dismount guaranteed to put the fear of God up you know where in every beginner you meet. A nice 2 man detachable with a gentle dismount on order please. Also, because this is our main teaching slope the queues get horrendous in holiday time (unless you take private lessons of course!) wink
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I remember( i think) when the Colosses was a nasty long drag, awful then, better now.


The drag is still there as well, bloody horrendous, our instructor took us on it in our 1st week of ski school Confused I try and avoid drag lifts at all costs, hate the things. Much prefer a chairlift so I can rest me fat backside and me plates of meat for a bit Smile
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Charlatanefc, it's also easier to have a smoke on a chairlift. It can be done on a drag lift or a T-bar, but it's a high risk undertaking.
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