 Poster: A snowHead
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If you've got all your other stuff already, how about you buying both from an online shop with a good returns policy? Then you can see which one fits with a suitable allowance for extra bits?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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plectrum, Go for 40L + 10L - it won't be much bigger than 35, and then you can get everything in. The test is DB, 's 'booting up ... in the spring sun' - 'cos you'll want to have everything in your pack (Jacket, gloves, overtrousers etc). Most of the space will get taken up with safety stuff (rope, crampons, shovel) even then.... Mrs Ski has just bought a Deuter AC-lite 45-10 which has an adjustable back, but weighs almost nothing. I have a Mouuntain Equipment Solitude (quite old) 45L which fits OK, but is also very light.
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DB, ski crampons fit snugly around your skins or (if you go dynafit) you can clip them to your harness for easy access
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Arno wrote: |
| DB, ski crampons fit snugly around your skins or (if you go dynafit) you can clip them to your harness for easy access |
Crampons on a harness 
Find it's the boot crampons in their protective sack that take up the space. It's possible to stuff socks etc in the boot crampon sack too but as soon as you use the boot crampons you have to find another place for this stuff or it gets mucky. Packing everything in like a 3D jigsaw puzzle nicely at home is one thing, doing it on the side of a mountain with a howling gail and driving snow is another. Particulary as small items (gloves, socks etc) either fly away or run off like a scared rabbbit down the mountain. I go for a little bit of space over the theorectical minimum so I can stuff it in and sort it out later.
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yep - boot crampons are bulky, weigh a lot and make holes in things if you aren't careful. that said, they're the one bit of hardware where all those factors don't annoy me that much given how useful they are when you really need them!
edit: clipping ski crampons to your harness isn't such a good idea on the way down
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| DB wrote: |
| doing it on the side of a mountain with a howling gail. |
One can only feel sorry for Gail.
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 Now there's a freudian slip if ever a wrote one.
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Ski crampons/harscheisen/couteaux go around the skins in the skins bag as Arno said. Boot crampons: one of the good things about my sack is bungy webbing on the outside of the bag that hold them quite nicely in between the ice-axe and shovel handle. Another reason I don't like the diagonal ski-carry systems. Just make sure you don't reverse hard into anything/body  . I'd always make sure there was something like that on a touring sack (some sacks have special crampon pockets instead).
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ski, my bag has a sort of cross-gartering/cats-cradle arrangement with the bungies on little hooks either side. Unhook a couple, slip the cramps in and rehook. The cramps' prongs keep them perfectly secure, and never get in the way (as I say unless reversing sharply - then watch out behind). Done two full weeks like that with no problems. Also have the side effect of a nice brake if you happen to fall onto your back .
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Okay I'm going to go bigger. I'll let you know how it is when I return.
DB, I'm on a Silvretta Alpine Tour 7 days, 6 nights. I need all equipment bar ice axes and serious climbing equipment although ropes and harness as well as both crampons are a must.
By the way if anyone wants to come I think there is 3 more spaces, currently we are ~ 5. The guide is superb over 30yrs experience and UAIGM. First main week in April 5th to 12th.
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You know it makes sense.
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plectrum,
Had a great time doing the Silvretta's, sure you will enjoy it too.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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plectrum, the problem with starting off with austrian huts is that you get accustomed to the luxury! have fun
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Arno, La Meije looks so cool, was seriously tempted to go for it, I guess just had doubts that 36l would be too small. Your pack is 39l being the Large size so perhaps that just gives it the edge.
Anyway I guess they are not ultra expensive ~ £80 so if the deuter ain't the one for touring i'll just use it for other things such as taking up space under the bed!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Pretty cool the way on the Marmot site if you look at the pro team Doug Coombs is still listed as a member!
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Arno, We heard good things about Italian food... that's why we're going there this time.
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ski, I've only stayed in a couple of Italian huts. one was in the Sud Tirol so it had the best of both worlds - comfortable (with showers) like an Austrian one but with Italian food! the only foody thing to look out for (IMO) is polenta which I am not a big fan of
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Arno,
Too right...Polenta is cheapo muck, IMV
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Oops,
I was using my bag today and noticed it is in fact the Black Diamond Revelation 45 L model, I do have a BCA 35 l. sac and its only suitable for day missions not involving too much stuff. 
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plectrum, Allow yourself a little more room now, then you won't have to buy a bigger sack later If you can't stick (boot) crampons on the outside, you'll need that 40L at least. Harness and crevasse gear take a lot of space.
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JT, Arno, Vittorio Sella hut - food was fantastic ! And no polenta ! Mrs Ski damaged a knee so we didn't get any further 
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ski, My back pack is 45l+10l and it is packed, weighs around 13 kilo and feels it. I may try to dump somethign before I set off as it seems a bit ridiculous. Would have been screwed though with a smaller sack.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Great photos geoffers.
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Don't even think of buying anything other than a Macpac sack. Simple (ie every feature has a genuine purpose other than simply adding weight) and bomb-proof. No competition.
(And, no, I don't work for them.)
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