 Poster: A snowHead
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Have you had instruction from any instructors at Chill Factor/ Xscape/etc that you really rate highly and deserve a mention...
As lots of us have a tune up or two before going away might be an idea to rate a few for everyones benefit
EDIT changed from being only Milton Keynes snowdome and took out referencing poor instructors...
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 27-02-08 19:06; edited 2 times in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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skimottaret, I know 2 refugees from Hemel that went to MK when it opened, Hemel is the better for it. I don't feel it fair to name names though.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Wed 27-02-08 13:13; edited 1 time in total
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Come to think of it there's another one who skis like a dog, how he ever qualified is beyond me. 
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Spyderman, how bout naming a good one or two if you dont feel like shaming.... 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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skimottaret, OK, Steve Jordan, Simon Ellis.
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I echo the ones that Spydie has mentioned, both the good and not so. Some people that I have taught at Hemel after they have had lesson(s) at MK have said how much more they have enjoyed Hemel and got so much more from the teaching we offered-as well as being much better value for money.
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come on team spyder this wasnt meant to be an anti MK thread... just thought it would be a good idea to highlight the good ones (i made a mistake asking to name bad ones) there as i am guessing lots of snowheads will take the odd lesson there and it may be of more use to people to rate UK based instructors than in far flung resorts..
I have renamed this thread to be more inclusive.....
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skimottaret, In the spirit of snowHeads should you not explain your association with ski teaching and which snowdome you (presumably) teach in?
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boredsurfin, fair point.. i had originally mentioned that i teach part time at milton keynes but had taken that out as i didnt want it to look like i was fishing for compliments or trying to rate my collegues.... have you had any lessons at any of the domes? if so care to share?
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skimottaret, All I meant by my last post was that there was some dissatisfaction with some of the instructors/instruction at MK. I can't name any names coz I don't know who those people were taught by. I have made a bit of general observation whilst at MK myself and found some of the techniques that I witnessed questionable. That is certainly not to say that I don't see questionable instruction at Hemel sometimes too.
I am not anti MK or its instructors. After all you work there and you are lovely! 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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skimottaret, I'm watching this thread with bystander interest - I haven't taken lessons as such at either MK or Hemel.
A couple of points: Firstly can those watching this thread assume that you and the Spyderfolks personally know each other? Secondly despite the thread name I have to say that reading through this so far suggests that Hemel has better instructors, and that MK has some more questionable instructors that may have been inherited from Hemel. I can't shake the feeling that this seems a little unfair on MK even if its true - naming good instructors isn't so much of a problem, but only if it doesn't become clear that certain instructors are not named if you know the teaching team at the respective venues - I don't. I have to say that so far it doesn't make a very comfortable read - mind you that's only my own opinion.
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Megamum, I did qualify my first post and say again that I am not anti MK or its instructors. Wherever you go you will get some excellent, some good and some dodgy instructors. At the end of the day it boils down to your personal preference and location as to where you have lessons.
And yes, Skimottaret and the Spyders have met on a couple of occasions.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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skimottaret, It's a bit hard to ask opinions of snowheads about the standard of teaching at snowdomes. The majority of snowHeads are not novice/beginner skiers, so would fall outside a snowdomes target audience. In my experience of seeing lessons at a snowdome, which is only at MK I might add, once a skier can perform basic plough turns from the top of the main slope, they then fall outside of the group lesson structure. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. The only alternative for progress from then on is private lessons.
Whereas Hemel offer group lessons right up to and including Parallel.
I see Xscape being aimed at recreational users, with lessons available for beginners and Hemel being focused as a learning facility.
Like Kitty says, there's good and bad everywhere, for sure there's some Instructors at Hemel I'd rather not see there.
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Poster: A snowHead
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skimottaret, Let's start again.
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MK: Stephen Jordan
Simon Ellis
Dan Gillespie
Steve Cooper
I haven't seen you teach so I've left you out.
I know a few others, but wouldn't recommend them.
ChillfactorE: Andrew Lockerbie
Probably the best skier I've ever seen, also the chairman of BASI. Had quite a few sessions with him, embarassingly good.
Don't know any other centres Instructors.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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IMO they overprice their lessons, can't remember the exact price of a private lesson but i remember thinking F*%k me that hurts
Megamum, when you go and have a haircut you like to go to the same hairdresser [right?] and you found that recomendation by someoen telling you about it, or by trial and error.... so if you have a list of rated isntructors it is exactly the same a rating hairdressers do you not think that when you call up and ask to speak to tracy that julie and diane get pi$$ed off that you are favouring her and that you might think that they are not as good
it happens all over the place ski instructors, hairdressers, boot fitters, chiroproactors, doctors etc etc
if you are good at what you do people will recomend you if not then you will fall to the bottom of the pile, and in many cases look for a career change
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CEM,
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| IMO they overprice their lessons, can't remember the exact price of a private lesson but i remember thinking F*%k me that hurts |
You could probably get on Easyjet to GVA, hire a car and have a day in Chamonix cheaper than an hour's private at MK. 
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OK, folks just so long as all this is fair that's fine - no probs here. I just didn't want to see an injustice done to anyone on-line whilst they were not necessarily part of the process to be able to respond on their own behalf. No offence intended to anyone that's replied here (I don't think from the replies that any was taken, but you never know).
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Megamum, There is no question of any "Pro" naming an Instructor, who they believe to be poor. Certainly not on a public forum.
Recipients of said "Poor" lessons, go right ahead. You have the right, as you've paid for it.
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Spyderman, Just as I would expect  However, the thread does appear to be aimed at the punters anyway.
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Spyderman, how much? I would have guessed £50/hour 1-to-1. am I close?
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red 27, £40 for half an hour at Braehead.
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red 27, MK Snozone 1 Hr Private lesson £150
Hemel Ski Centre 1 hr Private lesson £54
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Wed 27-02-08 22:03; edited 3 times in total
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If seen that sort of cost posted here before - at the sort of price I'm amazed that there are any punters to comment!!  For twice that you can do the April snowheads price - for three times that you get drinking cash too!!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Spyderman, yikes! I guess the difference is the snow? I'm presuming Hemel is plastic. even so £150/hour is a lot, I've paid less for ...er... well just about everything.
£150... ... Do you get to keep the skis?
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You know it makes sense.
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Spyderman, Just imagine what they will be able to charge in Southampton, 90 mins from London by train, what do you reckon £200+ an hour
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red 27,
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| £150... ... Do you get to keep the skis? |
No, but you'll have to pay for parking on top of that too.
Hemel is Plastic for another 3 weeks, then next March it's snow. The prices are only expected to rise modestly, certainly nowhere near what MK is charging. Hemel wants business from ski lessons, as it will be the southern BASI centre of excellence.
boredsurfin, I'll teach you for £200 an hour anytime.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar, I'm sure we'll be recommending you, after you've had 2 weeks with the Grand Master.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Spyderman, why thank you kind sir. I did have someone ask if she could book a private lesson with me at MK; quite made my day, even though I had to explain to her I wasn't actually qualified yet.
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Not snowdome, but plenty of good instructors at Kendal, esp. Bob Eastwood, Bob Park, John, Richard, and any of the monday night crew.
Well worth the £12 per session, and the rain and wind are thrown in for free 
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Is MK really £150/hr for a private lesson? That's amazing. Do you get a massage and happy ending afterwards? Warren Smith only charges about £260 for the entire day!
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Just to qualify the above, that's for a full day ski coaching in Verbier. Not a massage and happy ending.
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So how much does he charge for those BGA?
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Not sure, redheads have never been my thing....
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sorry 
... I actually agree with you and that is why i originally had asked for a good, and, bad list. But in hindsite I dont think naming poor instructors is a good idea here...
