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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Frosty the Snowman, to be honest, the preferred route looks like a big traverse ruond above his right arm and down some powder. But then I don't know that terrain so couldn't be sure.
Otherwise, bumps every time for me... 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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South facing slopes in that area and very prone to slipping in the afternoon sun. Santons can be horrible - busy with many unconfident skiers, bumps as it narrows. The black gets my vote but a nice variation is in between the two, basically big traverse above santons on the north facing slope, normally nice snow, traverse a little drop down with a few turns traverse a bit more. Quite steep as you drop back on santons or pop over back to Epaule du Charvet. Come the spring santons is normally shut in the afternoons so no decision. Face is a nicer route down.
Frosty the Snowman, if you like bumps then get yourself over to st anton not to be confused with santons.
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Which ones nearest to a restaurant
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Frosty the Snowman, I skied the Epaule de Charvet, back in 2000 when I was dying with the flu and just wanted to get home. I just picked the most direct route, as I was feeling so terrible. Don't remember much of it, except it didn't take that long to do. Haven't skied it since.
Pray tell the story of the dodgy Spyder jacket. 
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The best run is the one between Santons and the black. Nice steep trees. 
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Butterfly, Only in colour on the piste map. The bottom section should certainly be red in any kind of snow and at any time of day.
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... which are?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| ... which are? |
All the runs, even the 'easy' ones, down to the resort are steeper than indicated by their piste colour, and get icy very quickly from people skidding sideways. Some of the home runs at the end of the day can be carnage. I really like Val d'Isere (even though it gets frequently bad-mouthed here); it has some brilliant skiing, a large domain, I like the village, etc, etc. But I wouldn't go there if there was a novice or timid skier in my group. If that was the case and everyone wanted to ski Espace Killy I'd recommend staying in Tignes.
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You know it makes sense.
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rob@rar, We stayed in Tignes for 3 days at the end of April but went to VdI for a visit - the others skied but the lifties were quite happy for me to go up/down as a foot passenger to join them for lunch - and in fact we ALL came down the last lift as my friends weren't happy with the conditions by then (slushy).
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Butterfly wrote: |
| rob@rar, We stayed in Tignes for 3 days at the end of April but went to VdI for a visit - the others skied but the lifties were quite happy for me to go up/down as a foot passenger to join them for lunch - and in fact we ALL came down the last lift as my friends weren't happy with the conditions by then (slushy). |
Yes, it's possible to take a lift down all of the 'easy' pistes to get back to the resort. I just prefer not to, and I'm not terribly keen on novice skiers being forced to take the lift down when more experienced skiers can ski home.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Rorie found me a brilliant easy route that I'd like to have done a 2nd time if there longer. We went up Paquis from Lavachet to join Piste H down into Val Claret. (Apparently the upper bit of it's steeper, but it was lovely where we joined it).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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rob@rar, i've been know to get the la daille gondola down in the past to avoid the end of day carnage. I've skied val with beginners and I don't think getting the lift down is a problem, there are lots of good beginner slopes higher up all over val.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Frosty the Snowman, nice thread title. After four days with you in Austria the other week tho, don't kid yourself
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| waynos wrote: |
| rob@rar, i've been know to get the la daille gondola down in the past to avoid the end of day carnage. I've skied val with beginners and I don't think getting the lift down is a problem, there are lots of good beginner slopes higher up all over val. |
There have been times when I wish I had caught the bubble down! I really dislike taking lifts back down the hill when there is a skiable alternative, so try not to do it myself, and I equally dislike requiring novice skiers to take the lift down especially when there are pistes which (in theory at least) are suitable for novices.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Charlatanefc, .... Frosty the Snowman is very strong skier, esp in tricky conditions - jonpim and I did a day with him in Tignes last month. He needs to work on his jokes though ..... 
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I'd pick the lumpy bit because a) it's in the sunshine and b) it's not going to be full of nutters doing 'top to bottom in one fell swoop'.
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Faced with that choice, I'd go Bananas.
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Yes, I agree - Banane is the way to go. (Was just going to say so but you got there first)
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Frosty the Snowman, I've been down the bumps ONCE . . . mostly on my ass (head,ass,face,groin,knees,head,ass,etc.) and haven't been back . . . perhaps it's time for a revisit 
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Masque, When visibility is poor and the piste chopped or mounded (typical end of day stuff) a bit of knowledge on how to do bumps is a great asset. My technique went out the window in a rush in the above conditions, but the past few days has seen me enjoy bumpy pistes, and with very little extra effort.
Kramer, snowball, I can see Banane on the map....but what is it?
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You know it makes sense.
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Generally, the one with less people on it and always favour the black.
The most dangerous pistes are the ones with loads of out of control ants on it...IMV..as they are likely to do more damage to you than a slide on a black.
4 o'clock type runs ( zillions of ants ) can be a fun blast..but not normally at 4 o'clock
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
Masque, When visibility is poor and the piste chopped or mounded (typical end of day stuff) a bit of knowledge on how to do bumps is a great asset. My technique went out the window in a rush in the above conditions, but the past few days has seen me enjoy bumpy pistes, and with very little extra effort.
Kramer, snowball, I can see Banane on the map....but what is it? |
Banane is one of the more famous and well used off piste routes (some, like the Tour du Charvet or Grand Vallon are more than just routes since they cover a big area of possible skiing).
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Although it is a bit avalanche prone due to it's aspect I believe.
Not a place to be without probe, shovel, and transceiver.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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BTW
everything that Rob says about Vaal D'Isere (good and bad) is spot on!
J
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| I can see Banane on the map....but what is it? |
Literal translation from the French is, 'Banana' .... a finger-shaped fruit; tropical tree bearing this ...
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Frosty the Snowman, Santons would be great fun if it didn't get so many nervous people on it, but then I'm on a board and it is like a natural half pipe which means I can ride up the sides and spin. Unfortunately you can't always do this because of the number of people on it. Much more annoying is the long flat which I'm sure I could cross on a board if it wasn't for the number of people slowly picking their way down the narrow steep bit.
I agree with your sentiment though: quite often snow is better on harder runs and they're certainly less busy and most people on them know what they're doing. Santons should probably be a red but it is fun when not busy.
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