 Poster: A snowHead
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What do you classify as "Ice"?? The term gets thrown around rather loosely. In Scotland its not icey untill you can play hockey on it!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I classify ice as ice. I'd describe it as icey when skiing if the snow is bone hard and you're never quite sure if your edges are going to hold and on occasions they don't and you do that really embarrassing throw your hands in the air balance correction thing.
I heard that if you wanted to try skiing in Scotland you should stick a blender full of ice on your face first to see if it was going to be for you. Or alternativel just sit in a bar. Quite liked that bit.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I call it ice when you see that green shiny glint....
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pam w, is that in the bar or....
coat please.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hugh Jarse, TAAAAAXI.
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Ice is clear blue stuff, everything else is just Hardpack. 
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Spyderman, my thoughts exactly! none of this "snow is bone hard" rubbish! 
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PSB 06
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They're correct in scotland.
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David Murdoch, we're alwAys correct in Scotland. Unlike you Southerners! 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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having learnt to ski as a child in scotland, i did have to laugh last year in peyragudes when the liftie tried to stop me going down one of the pistes as he said it was very icy and far too dangerous.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Rossfra8 wrote: |
| What do you classify as "Ice"?? The term gets thrown around rather loosely. In Scotland its not icey untill you can play hockey on it! |
Rossfra8, there is a classification of snow hardness as follows:
- your hand breaks through the surface
- your finger makes it
- pencil bursts the surface (= hard pack)
- knife breaks through the surface ( = ice)
- knife scratches the surface ( = compact ice)
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You know it makes sense.
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II, I'm glad you thought PSB 07 was icy - I certainly did!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The roughest nastiest ice I ever skied was on the long route from the Ptarmigan on Cairngorm, via the Traverse and the Fiacaill Ridge, and down to the car park. The snow had frozen in a strong icy wind to form something like corrugated iron. It felt like slippery rock. We raced across it in a mad scramble, with legs shaking and skis clattering.
This was the spring of 1975 and I was using Look turntable bindings, which had excellent elastic travel to absorb shocks. Never has a set of bindings served me better. A blow-out and long fall would have been a very painful experience.
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Poster: A snowHead
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- pencil bursts the surface (= hard pack)
- knife breaks through the surface ( = ice)
- knife scratches the surface ( = compact ice) |
No no no... It's more like:
- pencil bursts the surface (= Powder)
- knife breaks through the surface ( = Soft Snow)
- knife scratches the surface ( = firm packed)
- TNT scratches the surface (= hard packed)
- Try a Nuke? (Ice)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Ice (n.) Water frozen solid. |
...*runs*
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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OK, so there are some ice experts here - I called that stuff 'ice' that I found on holiday last Feb - would you agree?
It was a thin layer of snow that had turned to watery slush during a warm day, had frozen overnight, and on the point of freezing had been formed into something resembling 'cobbles' by the tracks of the piste basher. When I skied on it - a large proportion of the practice slope had the surface) the skis didn't cut in and they made an horrendous clattering noise when you went across them - come to think of it I must be getting hang of things to have even stayed upright there was so little grip - so tell me, does this sound like 'ice'?
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I'd call that 'icy' as opposed to 'ice'
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Megamum, do you have a pond that freezes over?
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Megamum, death cookies.
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Rossfra8, fish.
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This is SNOWHeads, not ICEHeads. I like to ski on snow. If I wanted ice, I'd take up skating.
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Megamum, If you skied death cookies you did very well. we had them in Tremblant at New year - horrendous!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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It hurts when I fall on it.
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| rob@rar wrote: |
| Megamum, death cookies. |
I skied on that stuff so much it doesn't even register on my "ice scale". The first time I heard the term, I had to ask for a definition. Unpleasant it maybe, it's not deathly smooth like real ice, which resembles skiing on kitchen tiles.
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You know it makes sense.
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I call it ice when the sound under my skis changes.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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abc, I've never skied on stuff resembling kitchen tiles, the 'death cookies' are as bad as I've tried - mind you, at my level, that was bad enough!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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So those things are called death cookies are they? You learn something new every day 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Hard rolled artificial snow thawed and then frozen 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ice is when you can't ski on it, best thing to do is sideslip cos your edges sure aren't going to be gripping anything (at least that's what happened to me when I gaily hit a patch of ice!). Unpleasant as death cookies or re-frozen slush are, they're not ice. So Megamum, I'm afraid you've yet to experience ice.
tommy10pages, that's what Canadians (in BC) call ice! What we would call hard-packed
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I was once hiking and descending a ridge and hit a 30ft wide stretch of ice approx 4" deep. With no crampons with me it's been the only time I've had to cut steps to avoid having to turn back. That is ice... anything still white is just icy snow.
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