 Poster: A snowHead
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I bought my ski boots 2 years ago (Salomon Performa 8 ) in resort because the hire shop's selection was poor and I'd been thinking about it for a while anyway. The guy advised me to go with the smallest boot shell possible and I bought a size which was comfortable and although I could fit in the next size down, I felt it was too tight on the toes. He then heated the boots/liners and I stood in them for 30 minutes whilst the liners molded to my feet.
Anyway, in the interim I feel the linings have packed out a little and thought that I could get them re-molded. My ankle area is a little loose but not bad. Therefore I'm thinking that I should get some proper footbeds before having this done. As I don't want to pay a fortune I was considering off the shelf footbeds (Superfeet ??) and then have the linings re-heated with these footbeds fitted.
My questions are;
1. Is this the correct sequence. i.e. footbeds first then heat up liners ?
2. Will it help with my over pronation problem which I believe causes my alignment problems whilst in my boots and therefore affects my skiing, as I feel that I get sloppy with my edges as the day wears on ?
3. Is there a big cost/benefit difference between off the shelf and custom molded footbeds. i.e. would paying a lot extra be that noticeable to me when I've managed with the manufacturers insoles ?
4. Should the canting adjustment on the boot only be done after having a decent footbed fitted if at all ?
5. How many skiing days do the standard liners usually last and how many times can they be re-heated ?
TIA
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I bought my ski boots 2 years ago (Salomon Performa 8 ) in resort because the hire shop's selection was poor and I'd been thinking about it for a while anyway. The guy advised me to go with the smallest boot shell possible and I bought a size which was comfortable and although I could fit in the next size down, I felt it was too tight on the toes. He then heated the boots/liners and I stood in them for 30 minutes whilst the liners molded to my feet.
Anyway, in the interim I feel the linings have packed out a little and thought that I could get them re-molded. My ankle area is a little loose but not bad. Therefore I'm thinking that I should get some proper footbeds before having this done. As I don't want to pay a fortune I was considering off the shelf footbeds (Superfeet ??) and then have the linings re-heated with these footbeds fitted.
My questions are;
1. Is this the correct sequence. i.e. footbeds first then heat up liners ?
footbeds first yes, no point re heating the liner it will not change too much after the amount of use it has had
2. Will it help with my over pronation problem which I believe causes my alignment problems whilst in my boots and therefore affects my skiing, as I feel that I get sloppy with my edges as the day wears on ?
footbeds will definately help with pronation/ alignment issues but if there is movement of the foot in the boot then their benefit will be less than if the boot was a little snugger
3. Is there a big cost/benefit difference between off the shelf and custom molded footbeds. i.e. would paying a lot extra be that noticeable to me when I've managed with the manufacturers insoles ?
off the shelf £30-£40 custom made £60-£150 the custom product if well made will control more motion and give a better fit in most cases, you could always start with an off the shelf insert and upgrade eventually , then put the off the peg product into a pair of trainers or hiking boots
4. Should the canting adjustment on the boot only be done after having a decent footbed fitted if at all ?
the cant adjustment will align the shaft of the boot to the shape of the leg so it should be checked after the footbed is fitted, it should be checked with your foot and the footbed in the shell with no liner!
5. How many skiing days do the standard liners usually last and how many times can they be re-heated ?
normal lifespan for a standard liner [if the fit is good] is around 100-120 skier days, i normally only heat the liners once [they mcan be done a couple of times but sweaty liners stink something awful in the shop when they are heated] heating the shells is the alternative i use if i need anything to re mould
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CEM, Thanks for all the answers.
As I've only been managing to ski one week per year this year and next year, I think I'll go for the off the shelf. Any specific recommendations for an over pronator ? A lot of people seem to recommend the Green Superfeet ones.
I also think I should have gone a little smaller on the boot but at the time the liner was very snug in the shop. The zip fit liners look really good replacements but as I only paid about £175 in resort for the boots they seem a little expensive in comparison. If I have shells that are a little on the large size what options do I have to regain a snugger fit ?
Regarding the canting, is it usual that Salomon boots need adjusting from their default setting for someone with over pronation ?
Next time I buy boots I will visit a proper boot fitter 
Many Thanks
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superfeet green is great, depending on the height of your arch it may be worth looking at the blue product [slightly less support] or the new orange insert, which has a little cushioning under the ball of the foot
forget zip fit, in asituation like this where the boot is big it may solve the problem in the short term but it really needs to be in the correct size of shell, a volume reducer and so strategicly positioned foam pads may snug things up for now
as for the canting, it depends on the curvature of your lower leg rather than the amount of over pronation
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CEM, Thanks for all the advice.
Do you mean pre-shaped foam pads from a specialist shop or do you mean get some foam and cut out appropriate shapes ?
FYI, The largest amount of room is around the back of my ankles (achilles region) and above the "knuckles" of my toes
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pokemon, don't worry too much about the space above the toes, a volume reducer [flat non compressible insole] will solve that, as for the back of the ankle/achilles area then foam padding can be added, someplaces have pre cut shapes, i prefer to make my own to suit the job in hand, a lot of the time i will use leather as it does not compress as much as boot fitting foam PM me your address and the boot size and i will pop you something in the post which will start the process
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CEM, Thanks I have PM'd you
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CEM, How is the canting adjustment undertaken? The reason I ask is that I have never had that looked at when purchasing boots. How important is it and can you diy it?
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Sage, depends on the boot model, but it can make a major difference in some boot/ leg combinations
stand in thew shells on the footbed foot to the back of the shell, in your normal skiing stance, have a friend looka at the position of your leg in the boot, the aim is to get the gap either side to be equal [and not to try and correct any abnormallity] you must stand looking straigt ahead and ignor what is going on, looking down will twist your position and give a false reading
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