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Hi I am looking for an all mountain ski for a trip to canada, and its down to either the rossignol B2 or B3.
Used to Atomic GS and Metron M10, but would prefer something lighter and more all mountain, as it were.
Your views are appreciated.
thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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If it's British Columbia, I'd go for the B3, or even wider!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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its banff and still trying to get to grips with off-piste!
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Don't even rule out B4's.
haven't they changed the names this year though?
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B3.
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What he said.
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Why down to those 2..?
You renting or buying..?
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buying and kinda thought they are a good buy/price and good all round ski's.......
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cforcat, Last years B3 is well regarded allround, but they have new models this year, IIRCC
I skied the B3 short - not my choice but a long story..and it seemed fine so out of the two, I'd go B3 but you should be getting a very keen price if it is last year's model..
I think this year it is called the B83 but do not know how it differs
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Neither.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Bones wrote: |
| agree with veeeight, |
can you expand please?
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Agreed.
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You know it makes sense.
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cforcat, Head Monster IM82, Dynastar 8000 or Mythic Rider, Atomic Nomad Crimson, Scott Mission, Volkl Bridge. Dynaster Pro Rider XXL. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Atomic Nomad Crimson
^ this. I really want to try some of these, hoping for a fatter R11 kind of ski. Took out Rossi B2 & very briefly B3 a couple of years ago and utterly hated them. Very dead feeling, juddery on hard stuff, nice enough off piste but not as stable or chuckable as Monsters (B3 was better here), hard work to get anything out of them... They're a good ski, don't get me wrong, but I just couldn't find any fun in them compared to Head monsters, atomic R11 or even the older rossi bandits.
edit - having said that, out of your choice I'd get the B3, because it at least floats well.
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Poster: A snowHead
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cforcat, Ok before I bought my last pair of skis, I really wanted some b2's or thought I did. Had been using some salomon xscreams before the time to change. I nearly went out and bought some, but it was suggested to me to demo some first. It was also suggested to demo some other pairs to give a comparison. I listened to advice from more knowledgeable skiers than myself. i like to ski all the mountain and happy in the trees and powder as well as reasonable fast piste skiing. the first pair I tried was the B2 and boy was I so pleased I didnt buy them. slow and really hard work in comparison to my old xscreams. I skied them all morning on the different sorts of terrain that I like.
The friend who advised me to demo skis first, was very smug as thats exactly what he had predicted. In the afternoon I skied the same terrain on the 2nd pair and after the first run loved em. They performed well and were effortless to ski on, speed wasnt a problem with them and the more you pushed them the better. This was a pair of Volkls recomended both by the friend and the gent in the ski shop having listened to me first.
So my main point is even tho you have decided on something dont buy until you ave demoed and compared them. im not saying they are riubbish as people will defend them but for me they werent the ski I thought they would be, there didnt seem any liveliness about them at all.
As someone else pointed out to me, you dont walk in to a garage and order a car without driving one first 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Bones, A car costs around 13,000 pounds. But i get your point. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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b2's - if you are still getting to grips with OP then you will learm faster on these beauties than the B3 - don't buy into the surface area for floating/supporting you through the pow pow. unless you want to be a 'one turn hero' . Once you have core skills then you can take those to a B3 and enjoy.
If you want to 'float' take up snowboarding.
Another point, if it is hard packed, icy or bumps Lake L, Sunshine and Norquay aren't always pow pow, then the B2 is a more versatile ski.
Be careful of those who still judge the Bandits on the 1st generation offering as they were slightly too stiff and lacked a decent side-cut, they were great for good technical skiers but hindered others (hence why the X-Scream became a legend).
maybe you should find a decent shop that will allow you hire to buy - refunding your hire on the purchase price. You'll always get better performance from a fixed retro fitted binding than hire. Hope this helps
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"If you want to 'float' take up snowboarding."
Luddite  It can be fun, you know, not clobbering each and every submerged rock, being able to stay on top of windblown and batter through the chopped up stuff like it's fresh. If you want to sink you may as well take up scuba.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| tailskidder wrote: |
b2's - if you are still getting to grips with OP then you will learm faster on these beauties than the B3 - don't buy into the surface area for floating/supporting you through the pow pow. unless you want to be a 'one turn hero' . Once you have core skills then you can take those to a B3 and enjoy.
If you want to 'float' take up snowboarding. |
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Arno,
Have you got any updated photos..?
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Bones, I did walk to a garage and bought a car without ever driving it. The first time I was actually on the seat of that make and model was when I drove it out. And I have bought skis without trying as well. Perhaps not smart, but has worked well.
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| Cunners wrote: |
| Took out Rossi B2 & very briefly B3 a couple of years ago and utterly hated them. Very dead feeling, juddery on hard stuff, nice enough off piste but not as stable or chuckable as Monsters (B3 was better here), hard work to get anything out of them... They're a good ski, don't get me wrong, but I just couldn't find any fun in them compared to Head monsters, atomic R11 or even the older rossi bandits. |
I normally ski R11's (love them but they're now dying  ). I have hired B2's and B3's and have to agree with Cunners. They are fine off piste and good cutting through chopped up powder but they just feel dead.
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Cunners,
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not clobbering each and every submerged rock, being able to stay on top of windblown and batter through the chopped up stuff like it's fresh.
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Not if you are skilled, or was this is why you took up snowboarding 
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Hey, if I wanted to I could teach Plake and Morrison a thing or two, I've just got better things to do with my time than getting all uptight about technique, you know...
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I never consider damaging my skis a really worry, I just simle and consider it a free base grind! 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Ride 'em like you stole 'em.
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