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doctor_eeyore, To counter-balance a remark by a young whippersnapper on another thread, I just LEURVE your style and wish you were my doctor. So there. Toofy Grin
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Kitty, Haematomata take ages to resolve. But can I just re-iterate my point that the web is no place for diagnosis. Take your haematoma to see someone if you're worried.

pam w and Helen Beaumont, Re caffeine and OTC preparations:

I would never buy Syndol. If I want pain relief, I'd take pain killers. If I want sedation, I'd buy a sedative. If I want caffeine, I'd have a coffee. Caffeine is added to OTC medication 'to enhance the analgesic effect' - that's what the manufacturers say. I am unaware of any robust trial evidence supporting this.

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the thing about syndol is it seems to have nice stuff, in an "over the counter" package. the caffeine is neither here nor there, and certainly doesn't seem to counteract the considerable sedative effect of the pills


true, very true, I think we'll agree to differ wink , it would be even more effective without it!

I think the beauty of the OTC combos is all the ingredients, ready-mixed and ready to go. It's a bit like our search for the one-ski-quiver. All I wish to point out is, if you like, the relative benefits of the Piste ski, the powder ski and the park ski.

Late starter, I wondered if my view on alcohol would go unchallenged. The physio's view is on first (and on 2nd & 3rd, actually) glance sensible. I think it depends on the degree of injury. But for healing to take place, you do need an increased blood flow... This is what I really love about medicine - you can have two almost opposite views, and both make sense. Hence our reliance on trial-based evidence

I couldn't find much on alcohol after injury; Alcohol after marathon; lots on impaired healing in alcoholics; but nothing to answer this question. I might get a paper out of this Very Happy
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doctor_eeyore, Your advice is really helpful, thanks! You mention in your last post buying sedatives rather than buying, say, syndol, if a sedative is specifically what is needed. But as far as I know you can't buy anything really effective OTC! I need something for coach and long plane journeys - apart from anything else - I get dreadful restless legs - it's horrible. I've never been able to find anything that really helps - syndol is the best I've found to date. Drs are reluctant to prescibe anything because they are fearful of too much sleep on a long journey and a deep vein thrombosis, or at least that's my experience.

I know this is off the topic though - apologies!
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Syndol's sedative ingredient, doxylamine is not available alone in the UK. The nearest thing OTC would be Nytol (diphenhydramine) or Phenergan (promethazine).

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This will vary from doc to doc. Find out which GP in your practice skis, and see them Wink I know the patient who came in to my room, looked at the pictures on my walls and said "That's Morzine!" found himself instantly on my 'patients I like' list Little Angel
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doctor_eeyore, How about the patient who looked at your flower print and exclaimed "That's morphine!"
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If I want sedation, I'd buy a sedative

what would you recommend, that could be bought as opposed to prescribed?
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pam w wrote:
If I want sedation, I'd buy a sedative

what would you recommend, that could be bought as opposed to prescribed?


As long as you're ok to take them, a sedating antihistamine, like chlorphenamine.
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Scarpa, No one's ever commented on the poppies...

pam w, what Kramer said. Sedating anthists are widely available OTC. Chlorphenamine (Piriton) is one, the two I mentioned are also antihistamines, as is doxylamine (see above). Ask your Pharmacist.

It's worth thinking about taking one before you go to assess its effectiveness; if it doesn't work you have the options of - trying a different one, seeing your GP for a 'proper' sedative (which you may or not get, depending on your doc) or just using Syndol if it works for you. Just for a change, I won't recommend alcohol Shock
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doctor_eeyore, Wonderful answer! Very Happy
Am sure you could find a few snowHead s to be in the experimental group for the effect of alcohol on healing, but not sure how easy it would be to recuit a control group of suitable size.... Shocked
And controlling for the impact of nutritional factors might make it just a bit more difficult - reckon you might need to have a look at that (well I would as thats my field!).
Reckon the most important factor would be not to join the ranks of those who got into most of the papers last week by rupturing their bladders after excess alcohol Shocked Very Happy
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