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A cheery bit of climate scepticism. Very Happy Ok, so the guy has a background in oil exploration but ... Confused

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/images/PDFs/archibald2007.pdf

Polar bears on the Thames, I tell you. snowHead

Seriously, the good bit about all this solar cycle stuff is that if it hasn't been shown to happen in the next few years, it ain't gonna. End of argument and the AGW behemoth wins.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
but could have flown down to Heathrow beaten a couple of hippies about the head with the report then flown home wink
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 Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Sunday Telegraph Very Happy
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/08/19/nbook119.xml

Inconveniently, the 1930s were the hottest decade.

Thing is I belive this one Very Happy
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brian wrote:
A cheery bit of climate scepticism. Very Happy Ok, so the guy has a background in oil exploration but ... Confused

http://www.nzclimatescience.org/images/PDFs/archibald2007.pdf

Polar bears on the Thames, I tell you. snowHead

Seriously, the good bit about all this solar cycle stuff is that if it hasn't been shown to happen in the next few years, it ain't gonna. End of argument and the AGW behemoth wins.



That is a relatively well-argued document. It is not afraid to look back hundreds, thousands and millions of years for historical benchmarks.

However, some scientists already counter-argue that variations in the Sun only have a modest impact on Earth's climate. Natural fluctuations in the Sun may not fully account for today's warming:

http://www.lse.co.uk/ShowStory.asp?story=LJ840672D&news_headline=global_warming_is_man-made_claims_study


One thing is more certain. Mother Nature is gambling on the Earth heating up in the longterm. Humans have slowly been shedding bodyhair for millions of years (long before clothes were invented). Hairy men and women continue to be shunned by society in the present day; a sure sign that hairless people are superior. Mother Nature has been, and is, indicating that the world will get warmer.

If you think Mother Nature has done a good job for humans in the past, it would be unwise to bet against her in the future. The planet may cool down in the next decade(s), but this is likely to be only a temporary blip as the world continues to melt in the longer-term. It is a natural phenomenon that has been taking places for millennia.
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'Mother nature' is reactive not proactive by er, nature. I have little truck with the global warming alarmists, but to argue that humankinds gradual loss of body hair PREDICTS anything is to misunderstand evolution.
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AxsMan, yes and you have Darwin on your side. What say you David?
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Whitegold wrote:

One thing is more certain. Mother Nature is gambling on the Earth heating up in the longterm. Humans have slowly been shedding bodyhair for millions of years (long before clothes were invented). Hairy men and women continue to be shunned by society in the present day; a sure sign that hairless people are superior. Mother Nature has been, and is, indicating that the world will get warmer.


That is just complete and utter dangly bits.

"Mother Nature" does not exist.

Changes in species occur over time as a reaction to changes in environment, and only then if said species do not interfere with evolution by protecting their weaker individuals.

Even those animals/plants that can apparently predict weather for the next season are actually reacting to what is happening now, in ways that are too subtle for us to detect consciously.
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This is a strong version of the common misconception that Nature produces mutations and variations IN ORDER to cope with particular changes in conditions.

As for the idea of the solar cycles causing the warming - that was conclusively hit on the head by the finding that "... the sun is currently at a low point in the 11-year cycle." and therefore "Unless other influences like volcanic eruptions or El Ninos intervene we can expect strong warming of the atmosphere in the next five years as an upturn in the cycle reinforces human-generated warming."
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