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PhillipStanton,
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| I think that Tim Brown and I fundamentally agree that 8,000 is an unreliable number. As is 30,000. |
Goldsmith also tried to say the membership figures were unreliable. All his points were destroyed with the facts. [/quote]
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Whether 8,000 is a meaningful number or not I think snowHeads is a pretty successful website. A lot of people log in to gain information without posting I think virtually all websites have a considerable higher number of viewers to active posters. There are probably a lot of lurkers who don't even register I didn't bother for several weeks.
For users there is a lot of very useful information on the site and it has certainly added to my skiing holidays. For the propiertor it seems to be a worthwhile project or he would not bother to going to all the effort. The SCGB presumably serves it's purpose but the success of one does not mean the lack of success of the other. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Tim Brown, your signature indicates your contempt for this site.
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
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| Wear The Fox Hat, you can't counter the point about numbers of snowheads, so you kick out like a child at the old 'enemy'. You should post less and get out more, imo. |
So, is that a case of "If you can't win with statistics, switch to personal insults"?
I believe that if you were to measure the amount of activity on the snowHeads forum, and compare it to the ski club forum (i.e. like for like) you would be able to produce relevant results. Any other comparison is, in my opinion, invalid, simply due to the different natures of the organisations - one is an internet discussion forum, the other is a business that has a website. |
It's really simple. There are a couple of hundred people posting on the SCGB forum and about 400 posting here.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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T Bar, agreed.
bh1,
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your signature indicates your contempt for this site.
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Why?
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Just had a look at the memberslist and many accounts seem to have been opened just as a way of listing a commercial website link.
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| Tim Brown wrote: |
| Goldsmith also tried to say the membership figures were unreliable. All his points were destroyed with the facts. |
I'm not sure whether I'm pleased or angered by that comparison. I've a feeling David Goldsmith would be less than pleased 
David Goldsmith was almost certainly right.
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| Just had a look at the memberslist and many accounts seem to have been opened just as a way of listing a commercial website link. |
I'd argue that the commercialism here is fairly well moderated. And is at least in the open.
Anyway, we'll clearly go around in circles here - but Tim Brown, I'm happy to do so over a beer if you're up in town. You could, perhaps, convince me of the merits of my Ski Club membership. PM if you're around.
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what is the average number of posts per day on here?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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PhillipStanton, i'm not a member any more. And Goldsmith wasn't right as far as I'm concerned. The scgb membership figure is accurate, that debate is done and dusted.
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| Tim Brown wrote: |
| PhillipStanton, i'm not a member any more. And Goldsmith wasn't right as far as I'm concerned. The scgb membership figure is accurate, that debate is done and dusted. |
I'll still buy you a beer 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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..... I have lost track of this a bit during my big clear-out ... !
Although I realise the '8,000' number, is just an indicative figure, in my view snowHeads isn't really about the numbers. Personally, I think it a great success story, from a tentative and humble birth out in the cold ... 
Not everyone posts - quite true and some registered users may have been like nomadic bedouins - fleeting visitors, never to return. Some post more than others. Saying that, I have also met quite a few snowHeads while skiing and at bashes, who don't post at all, but who are pukka snowHeads - a real joy to ski with and I might add, some real good friendships formed, which would not have happened in a non-snowhead world.
I haven't attended all the bashes, like some stalwarths who have the full set of campaign ribbons .... , but those that I have, have really been a laugh-a-minute through highs and lows - from the descent of the West Face of Col du Peclet, to 'The Last piece of chocolate knocked to the floor incident', which marked out the EoSB 2007.
I have skied with more snowheads last season than ever before & it really has been my best season ever - got to meet my first person from Boulder, Colorado  .. got a great Lamb Tangine recipe & even my singing has reached new heights ...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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BernardC - about that Lamb Tagine recipe - could you, err, slip a copy in my direction please...?
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Now at 7999!
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You know it makes sense.
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| PhillipStanton wrote: |
I think that Tim Brown and I fundamentally agree that 8,000 is an unreliable number. As is 30,000.
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Someone better informed than me might be able to break the ski club figure down to how many of those are paying members as opposed to the various free memberships that get handed out. I heard a figure of 17000 paid up members but that seems low compared to the 30,000 figure.
For what it is worth here are the ski club's daily reach figures plotted against snowheads from Alexa.com
What surprised me most was that closing the forum had no noticable effect on the Ski Club's usage figures. Personally I found the decision luddite in the extreme but maybe I was wrong?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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davidof, interesting stats.
41.3% of www.skiclub.co.uk users come from the UK, while only 13.8% of snowheads users are from the UK.
How reliable is Alexa.com?
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Poster: A snowHead
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PhillipStanton, .... here it is ....
.... and apologies to all for upsetting the Thread in this objectionable manner .... but such a recipe may very well be for the greater long-term good health of all snowHeads ...
1. Open decent bottle of red wine taste frequently, as necessary ....
2. For the pot….2 kg lamb (I prefer good old mutton for this dish – if you can get it), boned & cut into decent chunks. 900g Cardoons, 2 cloves crushed garlic, 1 good teaspoon ground ginger, 1 teaspoon turmeric, say a tea cup of chopped fresh coriander, 2 chopped onions, a bit of olive oil, salt and freshly ground pepper, 2 preserved lemons, quartered, 120g kalamata olives, stoned & half a tea cup of lemon juice.
Prepare Cardoons and cut into 3” pieces – keep in water to stop discolouration. Put the lamb/mutton, spices, garlic, coriander, a dollop of oil, onions and some salt in a large casserole – cover with water & bring to the boil. Reduce heat and simmer for an hour a half. (I normally put it in the slow oven of the range for 4-5 hours to slow cook).
Add the Cardoons and some more water to cover them. Simmer for a further ¾ hour, then add the preserved lemons, olives & lemon juice for the last 15 minutes. Strain off excess cooking liquid & reduce to thickish sauce.
3. Eat, immediately if not sooner …
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Mon 20-08-07 20:52; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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BernardC, no doubt Tim Brown will be along in a moment to tell us that the recipe is vastly inferior to one with which he is familiar. 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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bh1, the above recipe looks good to me and I'm sure it tastes delicious.
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You need to Login to know who's really who.
You need to Login to know who's really who.
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| Tim Brown wrote: |
davidof, interesting stats.
41.3% of www.skiclub.co.uk users come from the UK, while only 13.8% of snowheads users are from the UK.
How reliable is Alexa.com? |
It is not very reliable for low traffic websites. Still there is no doubt, contrary to my own prejudices, that the SkiClub is a very popular destination on the web and people obviously find value there. Given that they really don't have a good grip on this Internet thingie the brand is obviously very strong and continues to hold its own, even if they are not increasing their market share. Just think, if they were really serious about the Web how many visitors they would have.
Last edited by You need to Login to know who's really who. on Mon 20-08-07 21:11; edited 1 time in total
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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davidof, thanks.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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BernardC - that looks most excellent - thankyou.
I'm glad that the red wine makes up such an important part of the cooking process
Je ne peux pas le quoi, ce n'est pas beurre!
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I think there is a huge difference between the two sights. At the moment this site is chat based in that the forum is our strength. The SCGB site is an excellent reference site. IMHO it is pointless to compare the 2 as the are different animals.
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Guess the point is that SCGB has had over a century to amass a membership and, in view of that, their resources and quasi-official staus in the sport (FIS etc), under 3% of the UK ski population is staggeringly inept - can't think of another business in any country that's failed this badly. This site seems to be fermenting nicely.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Bode Swiller, how's Dave? Will he back online in time for the scgb reports? I might have to rejoin to watch him being flamed.
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and welcome to smallclaire, the 8000th 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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holidayloverxx, indeed. Complete with an A* in English, too! I blame mobile phones.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Tim Brown, I was hoping you'd have a vitally important, all rights reserved view on my spellbinding observation.
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I have a strong suspicion that most of the ski club page views are on its resort information and snow report pages, shame we don't have a break down of the stats, but that would need to come from SCGBHQ.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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gwaelod, ....But only 42 regular user's
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Poster: A snowHead
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...and most of them are Ray Zorro
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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x7, Looking at your Location, are you behind the Super U in Bourg St Maurice?
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