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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Winterhighland, Didn't spot your thread & I've just posted the same link so I've deleted mine. There's some scary footage there when those weighted chairs come off.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Never ever let anyone with a phobia see that!
The Rollback was truly terrifying!!! 
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Interesting footage
The 'rollback' with the weighted chairs was a bit scary.
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stoatsbrother, please don't - she'll never leave the house again.
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fatbob, Have to agree with you, think I would be looking to jump asap if ever in that situation.
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megamum, where are you?
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Hmmm. Nice tests. 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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is anyone else slightly dissapointed that they didn't have crash test dummies on the lift?
I would have liked to have seen adam and jamie from mythbusters do the tests!!!
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You know it makes sense.
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daehwons, or take it a stage further.
"The good news is we are giving you free lift passes today... now - would you step this way?"
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Well at least someone at sometime tested them. Have any of those occurences ever occurred - I guess a tree fall might have done, but what about the others?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Megamum, They happen very very frequently, especially in smaller resorts. Children are at particular risk. But the authorities hush it up or try to keep the resort anonymous. Now if we knew where you skied we might be able to reassure you! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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stoatsbrother, 
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stoatsbrother, Would you really want me to tell the Snowheads now? It'd make a mockery of my stand so far - I'm sure you expect better from me !!
Our friends tell us that the chair lift in our resort is one of the safest designs made. Also, I get some comfort from the fact that we ski in Switzerland where most of that sort of gear (if media hype is to believed anyway) is on its first installation. Don't they say that you've really got to watch places like Turkey where lift gear is on about its sixth installation!?
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Megamum, Did you know Switzerland has some of the oldest lifts in everyday use. It's something to do with the land ownership. Apparently in CH many of the lifts are well over 40 years old. Hence it is on it's first installation, no one else wants lifts that old 
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Megamum, Skiing is a dangerous sport 
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boredsurfin, Yeah, but technically skiing is the bit on skis where you're travelling on the snow, often downhill, at the time. I wonder whether there is a higher mortality rate from the skiing or from the in-resort transport involved in getting there.
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| Don't they say that you've really got to watch places like Turkey where lift gear is on about its sixth installation!? |
An Austrian Ski Instructor once told me that Kaprun got the lift haul ropes second hand from France, he said not to worry they were alright because they then got sold on to Italy. Italy sold them on to Yugoslavia which eventually sold the haul ropes on to CairnGorm!
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I wonder whether there is a higher mortality rate from the skiing or from the in-resort transport involved in getting there.
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The SKIING, you terminally silly woman!! And even that can usually be practised regularly over an entire lifetime without lethal results. For God's sake. 
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Lizzard, 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Megamum wrote: |
| boredsurfin, Yeah, but technically skiing is the bit on skis where you're travelling on the snow, often downhill, at the time. I wonder whether there is a higher mortality rate from the skiing or from the in-resort transport involved in getting there. |
Both are so low that the transport involved in getting between home and airport and between airport and resort have a far higher mortality rate.
When they are that low, any compairsons between the two rates will be statistically meaningless.
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Lizzard, I do luv it when you get all pink and fluffy on me!!
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You know it makes sense.
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Both are so low that the transport involved in getting between home and airport and between airport and resort have a far higher mortality rate.
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good point. In fact, for most of us who lead exceptionally tame and protected kind of lives, cushioned from most of the things which kill most people (e.g. mosquitos with the wrong parasites in their guts) being out on the road is one of the most dangerous things we ever do. That and climbing ladders to do a bit of DIY...
scary road smash movies, anybody?
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alex_heney, pam w, I don't doubt that you're right. In fact I doubt that skiing is any more dangerous than horse riding in that respect. I think the lift systems are probably hotter media pots. If one of them does that 'roll back' thing larger numbers of folks are likely to be affected in one go than single skiers (or horse riders) taking a tumble, a bit like when a plane goes down - folks say that flying is statisically safer than flying, but try telling that to the relatives on the next air disaster. Its events with large mortalities/casualties that hit the headlines not all the road crash victims despite the fact that over the year these add up to a higher accident rate.
I personally think that the chairlift video is actually more reassuring than anything. It shows that people do test these things from time to time and hopefully learn from the results, and also it does show just how tough these things are and how much needs to go wrong together for things to be catastrophic, if anything it makes me more inclined to feel they are safe than any other viewpoint.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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When debating the utility of helmets in one of the many threads I calculated from the published statistics on ski area deaths and road deaths, that driving from London to the alps and back carries about the same risk of death as 10 days skiing.
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I doubt that skiing is any more dangerous than horse riding
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I'd guess that horse riding is a good deal more dangerous than ski-ing, mile for mile, or even hour for hour.
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| pam w wrote: |
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I doubt that skiing is any more dangerous than horse riding
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I'd guess that horse riding is a good deal more dangerous than ski-ing, mile for mile, or even hour for hour. |
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| When debating the utility of helmets in one of the many threads I calculated from the published statistics on ski area deaths and road deaths, that driving from London to the alps and back carries about the same risk of death as 10 days skiing. |
Unfortunately, some people are afraid of heights, or whatever other. Then, the rational percentage of risk doesn't really matter.
I, for example, are terrified of spider web. Not so much the spider, just their perfectly harmless web.  Totally irrational, I'm the first to admit.
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abc, I suspect we're talking dippit attention-seeker rather than phobic, frankly.
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anyone who was genuinely phobic about chairlifts would have to be daft, to put it mildly, to have looked at this thread, and even dafter to click the link. Or maybe they'd be masochistic, too? Some fears are phobic, but even in those cases, some information on the genuine level of risk can certainly do no harm. Unlike an ignorance of statistics and/or over susceptibility to media rubbish, which can create fear out of all proportion to the genuine risk - e.g. the fear of your child being abducted by a stranger, which is no greater now than it has been since records began. The fact that anyone could genuinely ask whether ski accidents or lift failures cause the greater number of fatalities proves the point...
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I think we're talking pink fluffy lizzards again 
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