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I bought a new pair of boots just before my Easter ski trip and they hurt a fair bit over the 4 days that I was there. I put this down to me having to break them in a little bit. I bought the boots in a sale at a local ski shop in Leeds and the guy that fitted them ( I won't call this muppet a boot fitter as I don't want to upset the real boot fitters on Snow heads) basically just heated them up and made me walk around for 10 mins. I asked this guy a few questions but he was clueless so I just gave it up as a bad job and left (and I wanted to get home for the footy)
anyway my problems is that I think the boots might be a bit big as the binding on the toes can go onto the last notch.
I went to xscape yesterday and my boots started hurting a bit after only 20 mins, the big problem is with the instep on my right boot does not feel comfortable and starts to hurt after a few runs
Anyone got any suggestions??
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ajbaldwin, go see Lockwoods, or CEM.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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ajbaldwin Take them to one of
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the real boot fitters on Snow heads
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Seriously, I'm planning a trip to see CEM myself at some point, there's some nice shopping in the vicinity to make the journey worthwhile.
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Suggestions?
Put them on and kick the "bootfitter" in the shins with them. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Hurtle
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ajbaldwin, Bicester.
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Hurtle, why go? If your boots feel alright and you are happy with the way you are skiing - why bother?
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stoatsbrother, sorry, obviously didn't make myself clear: in order to check whether my boots would allow me to do the wiggly ankle thing (which I don't altogether understand anyway, but never mind.) Fact is, I learned to ski too long ago and my carving isn't good, so to have an expert look at me in my boots, to see if I really could edge correctly if I tried, might - repeat, might - be no bad thing. 
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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And I've been meaning to do some discount retail therapy in Bicester for yonks.
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Hurtle, I would advise against it, if it's the "wiggly ankle thing" you're worried about. I think it's only really something to worry about once you've got the carving sorted out. I can't remember what your skiing level is, but I think this is only really worth considering at a pretty advanced level. If you punch out the boots they will then be a bit more floppy - freeer movement being the whole point of the exercise - so your ankles will have to work harder to get it right. But if you're not controlling the ankles adequately it'll make things worse - as you'll have more opportunity for doing it wrong. IIRC, veeeight was really originally talking about this in the context of WC racers and tight race-fit boots. I can get enough ankle movement to do it (just) without punching out a stiffish retail pair of boots, but if I don't concentrate on activating them then things can go wrong fairly easily already (I was working on that a fair bit last night). Remember it would also make the boots a bit less stable when dealing with bumps and choppy snow - where you really want all the help and stability you can get.
If it's retail therapy you're truly after, then make a clean breast of it, 'fess up and go anyway - and stuff fiddling with the boots.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hurtle, The ankle wiggle they are talking about is a relatively small movement, and if you believe Martin Bell's posts - perhaps more a change of emphasis. It is probably unlikely your boots do not allow you a few degrees of lateral flex unless they are very new and very tight and very high end.
Also the shopping at Bicester is really not that good. It is a bog standard McArthur Glen outlet of which there are now many... and therefore bargains seem to be thinner on the ground. Perhaps you would do better visiting Bluewater and blowing the money there?
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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GrahamN,
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if it's the "wiggly ankle thing
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Well, perhaps not - I'm not an advanced skier - maybe more a case of making sure that I'm at least not being hindered by my boots, from carrying out most useful manoeuvres. I sort of envisaged putting me boots on, CEM looking at them and saying either 'so, what's the problem?' and me saying 'there isn't one really'; or him saying 'bloody hell, can't imagine how you even begin to ski down a slope with your feet in that position!' and me asking him to do something about it. Or summat like that. You're probably right, best to leave well alone, that was my first instinct, as you saw. Thanks to you and to stoatsbrother for your input. It's rather charming that so few people on here are reticent about giving advice.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Hurtle, hmmm! nice backhander... Of course the huge majority of snowHeads never post at all...
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stoatsbrother, hey, have you come over all sensitive again?  I really do appreciate the advice, particularly if it accords with my instinct and saves me money!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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ajbaldwin, Sorry to hijack your thread. Fact is, if your feet hurt, you need to visit a good bootfitter, stands (painfully) to reason. 
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Prudent pedant.
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FenlandSkier,
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Hurtle, If you're worried about *fit* of your boot, then visit CEM. If you're worried about the "wiggly ankle thing" and/or your carving/edging ability, then in the first instance you need to be assessed on snow (preferably on a mountain) by an instructor who has reasonably knowledge of the effect of equipment on skiing 
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Hurtle, If you don't go you'll never know. Kitty went with her boots, turned out the existing footbeds were split and well past their sell by date. CEM made some new ones, a few tweeks to the boot and what an inprovement to her skiing.
If you go and they're fine, well thats great and you can ski and forget about them.
if they're not, he can sort them out.
It's not such a huge trip from London, just up the A40.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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veeeight, Spyderman,  Between you, you have encapsulated my dilemma! But my stronger instinct, since the boot feels perfectly OK, is to be assessed on snow first. Thanks folks!
Thank you too, easiski, the Indian restaurant may yet tip (angulate) me the other way! And I will certainly
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next time go the a good bootfitter to actually buy the boots int he first place
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- I lived in a pre-lapsarian state of ignorance ie pre-  membership, when I bought the current pair! However, the salesman at S&R took a lot of trouble, and my feet have never complained.
Thanks again.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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ajbaldwin, If you are from Leeds and don't fancy a trip to Bicester, my current boots were fitted by Julian at EB in the Castleford Xscape. I've not had a moments pain since buying these boots!
I'm not sure what service you would get if you didn't buy the boots from them, or intend to buy boots, but it's worth trying to talk to him.
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) from my local shop The service was good and I return to the shop to buy other stuff from the shop 