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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I ski skis of very similar dimemsions (except for length) most of the time all over without bother. I am taller & a fair bit heavier than you hence have more leverage on getting then edge to edge but for me a 100mm ish waist ski works fine as a one ski quiver. They won't hold a carving edge on boilerplate ice where a worldcup SL ski might but this doesn't freak me out really, I suspect a good tune would improve performance in this area. There are also (obviously) better options for waist high hard pack moguls but slushy spring bumps are fine.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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BrightonSki, It's a ski that works great everywhere, great ski.
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Fatbob - i'd be avoiding waist high hard pack moguls and boilerplate ice if at all possible anyway!!
Thanks for the advice so far, sounds like they could work well for me. 
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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BrightonSki, put a 3 degree side edge angle on 'em for hardpack.
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Spyderjon, would that affect their off-piste performance?
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BrightonSki, Atomic ship all their skis with a 3 degree side angle, including their powder skis like my 99mm underfoot Sugar Daddy's. No affect in soft snow whatsoever but offers a bit more bite/edge hold on hardpack, especially as wider skis aren't usually as torsionally stiff etc. From an on-snow performance point of view a 3 degree side edge offers no downside however some (but not me) reckon that the edge might need more regular tuning. If there was a durability problem I'm sure that Atomic & Fischer wouldn't ship their skis in that spec.
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spyderjon, After getting into the habit of quickly touching up my skis with diamond files every couple of days during a trip I have found that my 3 degree edges are remaining sharp without having to remove much metal at all.
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MMmm interesting, will certainly give the 3 degree edge angle a go this season.
Any other Seth owners / users out there??
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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BrightonSki, I have pistols, and have used them in slalom races (not serious races). Mine are 1&2.
Once you get used to the length of time it takes to get from one edge to the other, they are fun on piste.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks.
The bindings (Salomon S912's) are currently fitted 3cm forward of centre. Is this recommended?
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BrightonSki, Sounds a little much for some one 5'9" what's your boot sole length?
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You know it makes sense.
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Size 27.5 Rosst Bandit boots - not sure of the length without getting them out of the loft.
What's the benefit of mounting the bindings forward of the centre line anyway?
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Poster: A snowHead
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| BrightonSki wrote: |
Size 27.5 Rosst Bandit boots - not sure of the length without getting them out of the loft.
What's the benefit of mounting the bindings forward of the centre line anyway? |
I think you get a freeride mark and a park/freestyle mark on these don't you? IIRC the freeride mark is aft, then further forward is the freestyle mark and then further forward is the ski center. The more forward you mount the bindings (towards the freestyle mark) it's easier to initiate turns, spin and ride switch; on the downside less float in the pow and not as quick when hooning it I think. Disclaimer - I don't own these skis - just doing a bit of research myself as I do like the look of them.
Cheers
BB
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| BrightonSki wrote: |
| What's the benefit of mounting the bindings forward of the centre line anyway? |
Benefits:
1. Easier turn initiation
2. Easier to ride switch
3. Easier to ride rails/half pipe/terrain park
All these are due to you being nearer the core centre of the ski.
4. Probably closer to your Campbell Balance point.
This is because skis tend to have a generic mounting point, which is not always the best place to mount bindings for most skiers.
Drawbacks:
1. Possible slight loss in top end speed.
2. Tails more likely to hook up coming out of carved turns.
3. Slightly less float in front of you in powder.
Benefits 1 & 4 are noticeable to me, and all the drawbacks are negligible. I don't go into terrain parks, but I still prefer a slightly forward mounting point.
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Cheers, great advice Wear The Fox Hat.
I don't ride in the terrain park either, but happier with easier turn initiation, and do like to ride switch sometimes. Not concerned about slightly less float in powder as they are wider than skis i've used in powder in the past anyway.
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Mine are +1.75. Given my shorter boots (from when they were originally set up), it's probably closer to +2 now.
(I'm not suggesting that you have to copy me, or that I am right, but it works for me)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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And I have seen pictures of Foxys Seth pistols!! Scarey.....
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I have mine mounted +5 because as Seth Morrison mentioned the mounting graph is 2cm off, Ive tried them at 0 and at 5 and I prefer more forward mind you I ski 189 and im 5'8, and I have some fujative (for sale) and they are dead center at +10 and SO much fun for messing around on.
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afiofa, Seth mentioned the graph is off, but only based on the middle of the ski, not the core centre (we've had a few debates on here before about this!)
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Still a little worried 169cm Seth's might be a tad short for the powder in Tignes next week, especially mounted at +3? Will there be enough ski up front to stop me nose diving? Still time to get them re-mounted?!?!?
5"9' 76kgs 319mm boot length / 27.5, usually ski Rossi B2's in 170cm.
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169cm for your size is quite short - I'd go for the 179 as a minimum if I were you. I'm 79kg and 1.78m and have gone for the 189s.
Spyderjon is giving them the once over as we speak... can't wait to get on them.
Cheers
BB
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BrightonSki, don't panic about it! My Pistols are 179, I'm 1.8m and about 88kg. They give me enough float in the very light, fluffy, Utah powder, but are short enough not to be too tiring for me.
bucking bronco, enjoy them! 
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| BrightonSki wrote: |
Still a little worried 169cm Seth's might be a tad short for the powder in Tignes next week, especially mounted at +3? Will there be enough ski up front to stop me nose diving? Still time to get them re-mounted?!?!?
5"9' 76kgs 319mm boot length / 27.5, usually ski Rossi B2's in 170cm. |
Don't worry, it'll be tracked out by then 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Going from Rossi B2's at 170cm to the K2 Seth V's at 169cm I was hoping i'd just see an improvement in off-piste performance with the extra width underfoot. Reading this forum and particularly the K2 Factory Team forum I'm now worried they might be a bit soft and too short up front.
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If they turn out to feel too short I think i'll splash out on some 179cm Seths or some 177cm Volkl Mantra's.
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You know it makes sense.
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Just make sure you let your true friends ski in front of you. The Seths kick up one humungous rooster tail behind them.
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BrightonSki, I think you will find the 169's too short once you get the hammer down in the powder. I've skied on 169's (I'm 70 kgs) and found them a little too sensitive in the deep, compared to 179's. If I was going to buy some, I would seriously consider 189's.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Seriously thinking of getting some 179cm Seths or 177cm Volkl Mantra's, and sticking the shorter Seths on Ebay.
Anyone tried the Mantra's? They get excellent reviews in this seson's mags.
Thanks for any advice.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Im trying to decide what Seth size ski to get and Im having a really hard time. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!! I have a pair of K2 Public Enemies 169 and a pair of Salomon Pocket Rockets 175. Im thinking of going bigger with the seth @ 189 or maybe go smaller @ 169. Not sure. Ive heard rumors that the seth is about 4cm longer than what they say. I really want a bigger mountain ski. I figured the 189 would be stronger ski for me but then again maybe the 169. Im 5'10 160 pounds. Im noot considering the 179 just. Either 169 or 189. Any suggestions or tips?
Destroy,
Vailrules!
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whistlerbc23, welcome to Well done you for searching!
Get the 189s, you'll love all that float. They ski short anyway...
Or maybe some Hellbents? Give you a nice quiver... PEs for hardish snow, PR for light pow and trees, Hellbents for the good days...
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