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The following poll is posed on the Ski Club of Great Britain website:
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What is your favourite size for a snowsports magazine? Equivalent to:
- Hello!
- Ski+board
- Golf Digest
- Glamour
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'Vote now'
Perhaps there are more fundamental questions:
Do you choose to buy a general 'snowsports' magazine, or do you prefer a specialised ski magazine or snowboard magazine? Do you ever use the word 'snowsports'?
Does size matter? Bigger magazines mean higher paper and production costs, to achieve bigger photos. How big should photos be?
Do you buy ski magazines and - if so - which ones? Were you influenced by the size of the pages in making the choice?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I don't buy ski magazines (and others very seldom).
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Ski Mags are universally rubbish. In the season we're interested in up to date info such as snow reports, weather etc. Mags are useless in this regard. IMO the internet makes these publications completely redundant.
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| telford_mike wrote: |
| IMO the internet makes these publications completely redundant. |
I agree - never bought one, although have flicked through one or two at ths newsagents
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Which idiot dreamed this list up:
Hello!
- Ski+board
- Golf Digest
- Glamour
- Or smaller...
How the chuff would I know what size those (I presume) publications are?
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I occasionally enjoy a quick flick in the newsagent as well (trying to stop that though as it upsets some people) but don't buy them, always read the reviews etc as with the thought of journalistic freebies in mind....trust  and them alone for reviews!
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That's right. The examples chosen are all the size of matchboxes or postage stamps.
Would you prefer something larger?
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Nice to see "Glamour" running a "Top 10 Sex positions For Women" piece, whilst the blokes are urged to "Tune Up Your Game"
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I hardly buy any magazines - except for Ski & Board paid through my SCGB membership. Aren't magazines C20th?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Marc t'Mosher wrote: |
| Nice to see "Glamour" running a "Top 10 Sex positions For Women" piece, whilst the blokes are urged to "Tune Up Your Game" |
Golfers don't have sex
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That explains my high handicap then.
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You know it makes sense.
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I don't agree that all ski magazines are rubbish and that the internet has made them redundant.
On the whole I think Fall-Line is pretty good.
Powder (the American ski mag) is also pretty good.
Not all the articles are top notch but both of them are well worth a read.
Good subject (ie one that you are interested in) with a good writer/pho/editor can still add value.
The same can be said for Golf (God help you), Sailing, Shooting, MTBing, whatever.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Please, this topic should be marked "NSFW" - I just clicked onHertz rent-a-quote's link and it sent me to another website that instantly saw MrsPeteMillis taking the mick out of me for.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Golfers don't have sex
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Definitely more of a solo effort.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Hertz rent-a-quote wrote: |
| Does size matter? Bigger magazines mean higher paper and production costs, to achieve bigger photos. How big should photos be? |
Bigger doesn't mean more costly. There are big formats that are economical to print. Depends on pagination, quantity and quality required.
If S+B are asking the question (to which 99% of the answers will be "I don't care") then they clearly haven't got a clue themselves. As a mostly mailed mag it should be on the same kind of lightweight paper stock used by US mags like Ski and Skiing. Still quality enough to print good pics and please advertisers but lightweight to save on postage. Sizewise it'll need to be dictated by Post Office limits and which press is offering the most economical format. S+B doesn't sell enough on news stands to make that route to market economic (probably loss making) so it should really become a purely club member mag. That way, the pressure to fill it with mindless advertorial will go and so too will the news stand requirement to have 100 pages+ in order to stand any chance of selling. Advertisers will steadily be deserting anyway (a long term trend) so they should be able to predict likely revenues and keep it less loss-making.
Apart from that... rename it - Boarders don't go anywhere near it. Get a fresh new editorial style. Fill it full of useful, well-researched stuff you can't find easily on the Internet and get rid of the "what I did on my freebie press trip" type of editorial.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Bode Swiller, Interesting
Make it member only - I agree,
Rename it - well there are actually some club members who board, and I cannot see anything wrong with being inclusive.
Editorial Style - I rather like it. I would like to see less advertorial, and I suspect Arnie would too. It is certainly way way better than it was when I used to receive "Ski Survey" when I was a member in the late 80's when it was truly dire, but there was no internet competition, less TV channels etc etc.
I don't think S&B are asking themselves the question at all - there is a crappy little poll on the club home page all the time. This is just the latest.
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Bode Swiller, do I detect you or a mate (perchance the author of this thread) weren't offered the editorship of S+B?
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An interesting question, given the following recent exchange on the Ski Club forum which has been leaked to Hertz rent-a-quote:
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Cesar Soriano: "How do I get a job at the Ski Club!?!?"
Arnie Wilson: "Would you like to edit the magazine, Cesar? It's very hard work, often a thankless task, but has its moments."
Cesar Soriano: "Arnie: I'm a jack-of-all trades: writer, editor, photographer, copy editor (aka sub editor), web producer, you name it. As for skiing, I must admit I'm still an intermediate -- I only learned to ski 3 years ago (at age 33!) but now I'm obsessed!"
Arnie Wilson: "Cesar Soriano: The job is yours!  We should meet for a drink some time."
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Last edited by Then you can post your own questions or snow reports... on Thu 15-03-07 15:51; edited 1 time in total
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S&B is the only magazine (of any kind) that I 'buy' these days and that's because it comes as part of the club membership package. Personally I'd rather they scrapped it, put the content on the web and charged me less for membership (or gave me something more useful instead). I agree with those above who have pointed out the the web has largel made printed media redundant. Certainly for news content or 'user reviews' the web is far more timely and broadly based. I do appreciate that not everyone has web access, but since i'm being asked what I prefer, I say save the trees.
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Hertz rent-a-quote, Have you checked if your name is the subject of copyright?
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achilles, no I have a proper job.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The Ski Club of Great Britain has a 102-year tradition of publishing yearbooks, journals and magazines on skiing. High street bookshops, newsagents and railway stations/airports are full of books and magazines.
Yet some people believe that the printed word is obsolete.
There is a risk of reckless decision-making. A printed publication has to have a purpose and execution relevant to its readers - that is all.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
| Hertz rent-a-quote, Have you checked if your name is the subject of copyright? |
Our legal team here in Geneva is currently working on a response to your enquiry. Their provisional response is that the name 'Hertz rent-a-quote' is a trademark of Hertz Corporation. You may be aware that an organisation naming itself 'Herts rent-a-quote' (located in Hertfordshire, UK) recently received an injunction from our lawyers and has ceased trading.
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You know it makes sense.
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OK, maybe we could turn our attention to Glamour magazine [perhaps the model for Ski+Board 2008]. It's pure filth:
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Hertz rent-a-quote, well, you have to admit that "How your post code affects your orgasm" is an eye-catching line. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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The postman always knocks twice at this postcode. Airport security (beautiful Glamour magazine reader) handles the situation.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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"The secret things men do whilst we're not around" 
Such as what?
Relax a bit more?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Study and compare orgasmic postcodes?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| stevec wrote: |
| ...it is no secret that we watch sport in our pants, buy needless stuff on the internet, drink beer and look at porn... |
You have to wait 'till your on your own to do that?
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What men do in secret is have orgasms thinking about piste numbers. There should be a magazine article about it.
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David Goldsmith, Do I know you ?
I find that many magazines are available for free in libraries.
What is the Ski Club of Great Britain ?
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I find that many magazines are available for free in libraries.
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You'll get told off for snoring.
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| Dave Goldsmith wrote: |
| David Goldsmith, Do I know you ? |
If you're a genuine David Goldsmith then it's possible that you do know me. Are you the David Goldsmith I discovered was working for the same ski school (Weekend Ski Club) in the winter of 1975-6 on Cairngorm, who also qualified as a BASI 3, and has done a lot of work in the TV world?
If you're an imposter (as distinct from a poster) then I insist that you meet up for a drink, which will be poured over your head.
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FAQ
although actually I think I knew all that, but I bet there's more........ 