 Poster: A snowHead
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Sorry but this man makes my skin crawl. A fox? no, but a slimey little weasel, Most definatley.
One little story, cant swear that its true however: Forestry commission in Wales tried to ban foxhunting on its land, The Taff wild boys said that if that was the case then the forestry commision wouldnt be needed, as the forests would go the same way as many an English owned Welsh holiday cottage. Forestry commission backed down.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Frosty, LOL  (hounds post)
Another excellent example of the kind of wonderful British country tradition this Government is determined to do away with.
DG Orf : "Rural affairs minister Alun Michael has cancelled his second rural visit in as many days, the cause .... 250 peacful hunt supporters who wanted to meat him. "
Typo intentional ?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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austin7,
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Typo intentional ?
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Nope not concentrating 
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What saddens me about this issue is that it is a glaring example of mob rule where the mob claims that democracy is on their side. Democracy cannot be a defence to everything - if it were, minorities of all types would be driven under all over the world.
Democracies (and the ministers that administer them) have a duty to be responsible. This is supposed to be a liberal country where prohibitions are serious things for which there needs to be a compelling argument. The fact that the majority find the activities of a minority to be unpleasant is not a compelling reason to ban it.
The moral argument about hunting and its alternatives is open to debate (as evidenced here and elsewhere). The fact that the moral justifications for a ban could apply to many more activities undermines the moral standpoint of those that call for the ban. Fishing? where is the pest control or community adhesion justification for the cruelty inflicted on the fish??? Oh, silly me, that is sport carried on by people across the social divide and so it must be an acceptable form of animal cruelty.
It is the same criticism that is aimed at Bush and Blair in relation to Iraq - you cannot expect to justify invading Iraq on the basis of non-observance of UN resolutions if you then do nothing about Israel.
In my view, it simply comes down to prejudice and a perceived class divide (which is laughable when you consider the annual incomes or lifestyles of the average people involved in hunts). In that respect, it was a shame that it was a bunch of posh lads that broke into the Commons as they simply reinforced the stereotype.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Tony Lane,
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This is supposed to be a liberal country where prohibitions are serious things for which there needs to be a compelling argument
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I'm sorry, do you live in the UK ?....
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It is the same criticism that is aimed at Bush and Blair in relation to Iraq - you cannot expect to justify invading Iraq on the basis of non-observance of UN resolutions if you then do nothing about Israel.
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Quite right but nothing will ever persuade the US to do anything against Israel, hell they supposedly enabled the Israelis to produce their first nuclear weapons, the Israelis have been making the US pay for their inaction durring WWII ever since Israel was formed
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Now there's a sport we should all have a go at MP hunting although i don't thinks the likes of Gordon Brown would get far but it's all for the good of the nation.
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bootneck, Ah but Gordon Brown is known for his ability to fight back 
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Speaking as someone who goes fox hunting I cannot tell you that it is not cruel because I don't like to see any animal killed. However, the hounds (hounds, not dogs please) are only quick/smart enough to catch a wounded or elderly fox. In effect we produce (selectively culling) a strong and healthy fox population. Hunting has a bad press because they only ever interview the posh hunts with the well-to-do huntsman. Here in Devon and Cornwall, it is mostly farming folk that hunt. Their wives put on 'hunt suppers' / 'hunt balls' / we organise point-to-points / hunter trials (that's jumping to you folks). All in all it is a tradition and it is part of the countryside way of life. It's a social thing. I imagine if huntsfolk were 'Africa-American' or 'Asian' or some other ethnic minority, then the government would not dare ban hunting. You don't have to approve of hunting, but it is those peoples right to do so, and do so with a clear conscience.
Shall I tell you about 'cruel'??- that's when calves are born and taken straight away from their mothers so that the milk goes directly into those cartons and bottles and not into the calves. Have you heard a cow calling for it's calf? Just so as we can have our coffee - chaps.
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Also, you can't effectively kill a fox cleanly with a 12 bore. You need a rifle - those are guns that have bullets, not lead shot. And you need to be a good marksman.
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David, I have many farming friends. They all treat their animals with the respect they deserve. Milk production is the only area I consider morally wrong. Milk is a food for calves, no-one else.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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erica2004, you can kill a fox effectively with a 12 bore but you have to be good enough to get close enough to the fox before you pull the trigger, that really means within about 30 ft, that's no mean trick. I know because I've done it, but you are right a rifle is much more effective and a lot easier because you do not need to be anywhere near as close, as for being a good marksman I always get good groupings, typically 6 shots in a 4inch target at 600 yds, sometimes with a good rifle a 2 inch target at the same range 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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erica2004 agreed.
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Not bad shooting DG
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You know it makes sense.
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bootneck, I had several good teachers and started at an early age
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brian
brian
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Kill 2 birds with one stone, set the redundant hounds after Prince Charles and the rest of the parasites 
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Poster: A snowHead
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brian, Charles may be a little soft in the head when it comes to certain subjects but he's also done a lot of good, especially the Princes Trust oh and he doesn't get any crown money, all of his comes from his estates which he manages very well. If you want to send the hounds after anyone, use the politicians, they spend 99% of their time arguing and the rest screwing up the country, for which we as taxpayers give them a lot of money.
If you take the time to study the figures you will find that the crown estates give far more to the goverment in taxes and special deals (whereby the goverment gets to recieve income from estates and so on) than the Government ever gives back to the crown for official duties performed by the various royals on behalf of the government.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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ah but old charlie is the top boss of the paras grr 
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