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New Side Cut, Atomic SKis Need Upgrade Advice
 Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,

I'm currently skiing on Atomic Beta Ride's 11:20's. I love these skis but at times I wish I had a smaller ski for faster turning in the moguls and trees but I also love going fast and make wide turns. I'm currently 195lbs. and ski 170's. The ski comes to the top of my head. I always feel rock solid on the Beta Rides. They are very stable at fast skis and do OK in the depp snow and eat up groomers. My side cut is 107-70-90. All my skiing is out in Utah. The conditions are always powder and packed powder. I was thinking of going with a 155cm ski. I was lookking at the Atomic Metron EX, its sidecut is 118-84-111. The Metron has a much wider base and more side cut. Can any one give me advice on how a ski that is shorter with more sidecut would ski compared to my older Beta Rides. I tried to demo at PC but they didn''t have a Metron available.

My wife has the Atomic 918's 104-62-93 (woman's version) and I was also thinking of getting her a smaller ski. She weighs 120lbs. so I wanted to go with a 145cm she currently is on a 160cm.

Thanks in advance
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traderfjp, stay with the 170 length; that ski is WAY too stiff to float in Utah in 155cm under 195 lbs. In fact, 155cm would have to be significantly over 100mm waist to float 195lbs in Utah.

If you get back to PC, try the Elan 777/888, Blizzard Titan 9, Atomic Snoop Daddy, Volkl Karma, all between 170 and 185cm.
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Hi,

I can live with 170cm. I'm 5'8". However, my current side cut is 107-70-90. How would a similiar ski (stifness) with a sidecut of 118-84-111 ski. I'm afraid that it may want to turn too much and be less responsive on groomers. Also, how would this side cut generally perfrom in moguls? I once rented skis that were much softer than my current Beta Rides and hated them. They wanted to turn and I felt like I fought them and had very little stability. My current skis are rock solid everywhere. I'm trying to justify a ski upgrade or perhaps keep my current skis. I thought I might like the extra float of a wider base but I'm not sure what my tradeoffs would be.
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traderfjp, using my best guess as to how you turn, (and I might be way off), I think a M:EX would be (for you):

- a little slower to turn on groomers when you first try it, but you'd quickly (within a week) get used to that and they would be just as stable once you get an edge set.
- just as, if not much more, stable on cut-up snow and in mashed potatoes
- a bit of a handful in frozen bumps maybe a little more so than your 11.20s (slower, maybe a bit more tail hangup)
- sensitive to front-to-back balance in fluff

I am basing that opinion on the ski's flex as well as the sidecut.
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comprex wrote:
traderfjp, stay with the 170 length; that ski is WAY too stiff to float in Utah in 155cm under 195 lbs. In fact, 155cm would have to be significantly over 100mm waist to float 195lbs in Utah.

If you get back to PC, try the Elan 777/888, Blizzard Titan 9, Atomic Snoop Daddy, Volkl Karma, all between 170 and 185cm.


Like an Icelantic Nomad. 156cm or 169cm and 105mm inderfoot.
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kiwi1, something like that, yes.

BTW, I notice a -lot- of 155cm M:EXs on Fleabay. There's a reason for that (its not a size that fits most folks) & don't let yourself get tempted.
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Comprex: I was actually looking at the Atomic Metron M:EX. The guy at the demo center said that my Beta Ride 11:20 is one of the best skis that Atomic has made. I love them but keep seeing skis with more shape. From what you said it sounds like there aren't too many positives to going to a wider ski..
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traderfjp, immediate positives: stability in chop and mixed chop/refrozen chunks, broader platform in pow. Beyond that it becomes related to style.
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