 Poster: A snowHead
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Beginner(as in skied once on a dryslope!) friend with in his words problem feet just bought some boots from S+R ( I told him there were a whole load of more reliable places (including hiring some first- but being a man!  )
Measured according to his form at 27.5 and 28.2 with wide forefoot, high instep and medium heel - I thought the width measurement was usually a little more specific than this but could be wrong - and having been told the 'beginner boots' that he tried and waltzed relatively comfortably around the shop in were only available as part of a skis and boots package (which sounds a bit odd too) ended up with Head edge 10.8's in a 28.5 (worn for about 10 mins in the shop) with some green superfeets. As far as I am aware no customising of liners etc.
First question - does this sound like a reasonable boot recommendation ( as far as anyone can guess without seeing feet/boots aside)
Got them home and as you would expect put them on and started dancin' around in them. 10 - 15 minutes later really bad cramped, squashed, 'I can't wear these anymore' pain across one foot.
Second question - Is this likely to be a bedding in issue in which case a few hours wearing them in is likely to resolve it or should he head straight back to S+R?
He's of the opinion that 'they don't fit' and needs them either punched out or replaced.
I'm concerned that given his lack of experience of ski boots full stop there's a possibility that if he goes back straight away they'll either get modified or replaced to the extent that they are too big (assuming they've not already compensated width by length) and from where there'd be no way back and he should try wearing them for as long as he can each day for the next week or so then reassess the situation.
Reasonable advice? or should I send him back to the shop pronto?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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My advice - take them back, get a refund, then after he's been away skiing for a week, go back and try again.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Wear The Fox Hat, If that's the same as " Don't be daft, see if you like it enough to go again first" - we've already been there!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Cheers CEM, ( not discounting your view Wear The Fox Hat, it's the route I suggested to him initially)
Oh dear - looks like he might be more right than I am then ....some humble pie to be eaten by the sounds of it!
I think he ended up buying because he was concerned that getting boots wide enough without being 3 sizes too long would be challenging in resort - esp. as we're going in February albeit just French rather than English half term -or his problem feet (as well as the width thing, previous surgery for neuroma ( I think, but could be way off)) would make pretty much any boot that wasn't a really good fit unbearable and therefore made a huge negative impact on his holiday ( if the lack of low level snow doesn't get there first)
Any substance to his concerns? ...best guess and all that!
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Annie, the priorities then reduce to
- finding a really good bootfitter in resort (by reputation, before you go), one who can a) understand his trouble b) modify the boot as necessary c) keep doing so during the ski week
failing that
- finding a really good bootfitter, one who can a) understand his trouble b) modify the boot as necessary
So the substance to his concerns is not really related to finding a good boot off the shelf, as that really shouldn't be his (or your) job.
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comprex, I couldn't agree with you more - I wish that this is what he had done in the first place - ideally hire, see how he gets on and if necessary buy in resort ...or more accurately take a shortish trip to 'the Zoo unless someone came up with a more convenient pure gold recommendation' or failing that (in the sense of if he feels he 'must' buy before he goes) talk to CEM and work from his recommendations
However, he hasn't. Knowing him and knowing how hellish REALLY uncomfortable boots can be (the combination doesn't bear thinking about) it is, if not my job, certainly in my best interests and those of the rest of the group we're holidaying with to try and give him the best advice I can (to which end I'm asking the daft questions on here that I am) as to what he should do next.
It hadn't occurred to me that he could just decide he made the wrong decision to buy at this stage. So on the strength of the advice above, that's the advice I'll pass on to him and hopefully get him to go for plan A - unless anyone is telling me that hiring boots that aren't going to cripple him is a complete non - starter, in which case hopefully CEM or SZK can expect a call soon! - or the rest of you can expect another raft of daft questions....
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Annie, you said the 'n' word.
That makes me somewhat doubt the wisdom of hire boots, as any inflammation that occurs could likely last over days and affect a proper boot fit during a session with a knowledgeable fitter.
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Annie,
Sidas in grenoble have podiatrists that specialise in skiers.... and ski boots...
as owner of very problem foot I can not speak more highly of them....
assessment made of legs/feet when
a) lying on table legs straight
b) lying on table knees bent
c) sitting on table legs straight
d) standing in various configurations
hips also examined...
orthotics(walking/running) examined in gorey detail
feet examined again(I think she went back to feet 3 times)
I now FINALLY have a footbed that appears to allows me to ski without hip/knee pain (i also have 5 spare pairs made by bootfitters if anyone wants some  )
so when he decides to buy I'd suggest your ski trip be somewhere that allows you to fly through grenoble airport and make the trip to sidas... for REAL problem feet they cannot be matched IMHO
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Guess I'd better ask him if it is the 'n' word then - thanks for that...........I'll no doubt be with more silly questions later!
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now FINALLY have a footbed that appears to allows me to ski without hip/knee pain (i also have 5 spare pairs made by bootfitters if anyone wants some )
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sounds like you have been using the wrong bootfitters, all our products have a money back guarantee 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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i have been skiing for many years now and still dont know my correct dinn setting is that( how you spell it even?)
anyone know how it works?
do you have a lower number if your heavier or lighteR?
i just say 4 and a half what weight is that??
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now FINALLY have a footbed that appears to allows me to ski without hip/knee pain (i also have 5 spare pairs made by bootfitters if anyone wants some )
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sounds like you have been using the wrong bootfitters, all our products have a money back guarantee |
so do sorefoots... helped none of their customers when they closed their australian operation down though....
Nor my friend whose achilles were shredded by their footbed/boot/lift combination to the point she could no longer walk.... (this was after so many returns that they foamed boots for free etc etc)
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You know it makes sense.
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