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Boot flex causes toe room to disappear?

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Flexed forward, the lower front edge of the boot cuff is profiled to pressure the inside-lower (also medial in this instance) flap of the overlap. If the toe buckle is at all loose (read: if it isn't 30-40lbs tight) the medial side of the clog is pushed forward into the toe dam and down into the top of the third toe.

Boot: Dolomite Pro Z

choices:

- keep buckle tight and fret not

- change cuff/clog contact profile (extend lateral side to make contact with clog closer to simultaneously?)

- throw it away and get a green boot?

Trimming the medial side really isn't an option, the cuff pressure is just barely there in time to stop the middle two buckles from entangling.
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Does anyone (except CEM and the Zookeepers) know what the heck he's on about Puzzled
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maggi, I have read it 3 times. I think advice is being sought from people that WILL understand the post. Smile
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maggi wrote:
Does anyone (except CEM and the Zookeepers) know what the heck he's on about Puzzled


I think it's one of those "if you need to ask then you don't need to know" scenarios.
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That's a "No" then? Laughing
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green boot Toofy Grin
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I wouldn't tighten the toe buckle beyond 38.3 lbs!
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comprex, Green boot!
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Sounds well technical to me. Nothing worse than a boot that causes buggeration! I dont know comprex background, but if you have consider all that is mentioned in the original post, the boot don't fit!

IMHO, anything more complicated than close the buckles, means there has to be a better solution, usually another boot!.

I had bad advice on one purchase, the bottom line was that the boot was too narrow. To stop heel lift, it had to be over tightened, this caused other issues. The solution was to buy another boot. I couldt afford it, but a techie in the UK managed to sort it. To salvage a boot, get it looked at by specialist. I'd never consider attempting a DIY fix.
I suspect you know this already though!Good luck!
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BMF_Skier, simplified, sorry:

The lower part of the boot is done as two halves, one overlapping the other. There is a semitriangular piece at the toe that covers the edge of the overlap.

When the boot is flexed forward, the part of the boot lower section (clog) that is underlapped gets pushed forward relative to the overlap. If the flex is not subtle then that same lower section gets pushed up into the triangular piece and, deformed itself, it rides up over it.

The question was mostly to ask whether

- modification of the boot upper (cuff) and profile of where it rubs against the clog can help by allowing simultaneous contact across the top of the clog
- I can rely on the toe buckle to keep the geometry fairly close to design or whether there will still be a parallelogram distortion (squeeze the corners of a rectangle together).
- A refit with a marginally different orthotic and therefore slightly different boot cuff angle will help hinder or be worthless.
- There is no real way to add rigidity to the spine of the boot (The one in question is a 110 flex, there is a 130flex also but both do the same thing). Maybe a slightly more stiffening liner.
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Oh yes, and
- A thinner and more formfitting liner (thermofit) could allow more overlap between the two sides of the clog, increasing the contact area at the toe dam as well.

At present I think a combination solution (thermofit, tight toe buckle, move upper clog buckle towards the toe, BOOSTER strap inside the cuff) is probably the way to go and should allow ~20 days of decent skiing.
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