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can anyone recommend good warm base layers for the teperatures in banff at christmas?
got falke ones just now but not sure if they will be warm enough?
thanks
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Helly Hansen ones are good.
I also tend to wear silk (but that might just be a thing I do...)
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Am i correct in saying that a base layer is all about keeping you dry to allow the other layers to do there job and keep you warm, rather than having any instulating properties in it's own right? I always use decathlon stuff that is relatively cheap and does a cracking job to.
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lynned wrote:
got falke ones just now but not sure if they will be warm enough?

It depends which Falke ones you've got lynned, but in general the Falke stuff is superb.
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lynned, I've got some Falke base layers. They are a great fit, but not hugely warm. I used them for cycling as well as skiing and they do that job just fine. I found in Tignes recently, when it was pretty cold and windy, that I needed a second base layer (which was an Icebreaker Skin 200). If I were going to have just one base layer for a cold environment I'd choose Icebreaker in the 260 weight (not the skin 200). Mind you, I was also wearing two pairs of Falke long johns, and two jumpers in Tignes coz it was very windy and rather chilly.
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These look OK, as do these
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Icebreakers are warm, but its a degree of layering. You can overpower the breathing properties of everything.
If you sweat you are going to have the problem of drying that clothing. Best to run a little cold and warm up as you go along... Its not a good idea to be too cold or too hot.

As for the Falke, you will not know if they work for you, until you try them. This applies to everybody and we all run at different temps. But your kit should be a good start..on day one, probably overdress slightly and be prepared to take a layer off somehow during the day.
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stevec wrote:
Am i correct in saying that a base layer is all about keeping you dry to allow the other layers to do there job and keep you warm, rather than having any instulating properties in it's own right? I always use decathlon stuff that is relatively cheap and does a cracking job to.

The Decathlon base layers are superb & inexpensive at under a tenner for long sleeve & cheaper for short. Wicking is as good as a Patagonia base layer I've got for nearly 3 times the price. Look in the running section.
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JT wrote:
Best to run a little cold and warm up as you go along... Its not a good idea to be too cold or too hot.


Great advice JT - I always follow that principle. Start off a little cold and you soon warm up.
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marc gledhill, good choices, IMO Polartec Power Dry (your first link) actually works better than Patagucci R1 or N2S systems. I normally, however, associate those with 2 layer systems for only modest cold, or as very light 2nd layers in 3 layer systems.

I thought the question was directed towards 3-layer systems (base layer/200 or 300wgt fleece with windcontrol/jacket), much along the lines of stevec's understanding with possible odour control and compression. If that is the case, take a look amongst training wear for football and the like, (Nike Dry Fit Pro, Adidas clima, Diadora EDN, Underarmour being our local one) for long-sleeved compression shirts and compression shorts.
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thanks everyone
the falke ones were ok in bulgaria last year but the temp never went below 3 degrees
ive been looking at banff forecasts and becoming a bit nervous about how cold its going to be!!
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Best advice I have ever had for a cold resort is always have lunch at the top of a lift, never the bottom. You can then stay warm on the run down rather than get cold on the lift up.
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I have found that Nike Pro has a great selection of under layers, as well as under armour. I wear an underarmour shortsleeve top, it is fairly tight fitting but it really does the job in terms of keeping you warm, and it prevents you from perspirating. Then I wear a long sleeve Nike pro top which has a similar effect, and then my jacket. This will keep me warm until about -10C. Anything colder than that will require another layer.
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Icebreaker is very hard to beat. Wicks well. Does not smell.
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go to howies http://www.howies.co.uk/ and look for merino NBL (natural base layers). feelgood factor high.
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ulmerhutte wrote:
Icebreaker is very hard to beat. Wicks well. Does not smell.


I would go for Icebreaker stuff too. It is worth the money in my view.
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I came across this deal the other week... http://www.cotswoldoutdoor.com/Cat/128767?history=search%20results - £30 for Helly Hansen mid weight long-sleeve top & longs.

The fit of the top wasn't as comfortable as I'd like in an ideal world (quite tight around the neck and chest) but that's down to my shape rather than the product itself. For the price I reckoned it would be hard to beat.

JenkinsDH
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Not too hot, not too cold, not cold when wet, pretty windproof, resists even my smells, looks good, biodegradable, soft and natural.

Sound familiar?

I'll never buy another thermal.
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