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Overnight snow in French Alps

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so it's all looking grand this morning with a thick white blanket but any firmer thoughts on the weekends weather, snow-forecast shows the freezing level go up like a rocket from noe through Friday to well over 3000m with some rain. Is this looking likely to occur, not that rain mixed with a bit of fresh is normally an issue at the start of the season as if i understand it, it helps to compact the initial base?
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skinutter wrote:
so it's all looking grand this morning with a thick white blanket but any firmer thoughts on the weekends weather, snow-forecast shows the freezing level go up like a rocket from noe through Friday to well over 3000m with some rain. Is this looking likely to occur, not that rain mixed with a bit of fresh is normally an issue at the start of the season as if i understand it, it helps to compact the initial base?
Cheers
David


Does rain not introduce a weak layer?
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Diarmuid, not in the same way that,say, depth hoar produces a weak layer but it can produce a firm slippery surface which subsequent layers will struggle to bond with
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skinutter, here, have a gfs model from today for Geneva...


OK, now anything over 3-5 days is a bit of a stab in the dark for the weather runs (hence the squiggly lines deviating from around the 26th/27th Nov onwards) but before then there is as near as dammit cast iron certainty that it is going to get very warm indeed... You can see this because the lines are virtually all covering one another, so there is little room for doubt. You have a day or so of cold temps left, then temps will soar (an almost 10 deg. C rise in two days is pretty phenomenal, to be honest... coupled with the lack of precipitation showing, it could be sunny too... sticking my neck out a bit, I'm reckoning this will produce daytime temps not far off 20 deg C in Geneva and the surrounds...)

All of the models and alterations are pretty much in agreement that the warm spell will last until around the 29th as things stand and then, encouragingly, although the lines are scattered again (meaning a lot of disagreement about how things may turn out) the general trend is for the temps to drop quite a way down below the 30-year average of 0-ish deg. I won't get excited about this for a few days yet though. Will have another look at the same chart on Sunday/Monday and see how it shapes up, but the trend, at the moment, looks vaguely promising for cooler temps again to at least get the snow cannons running.

Sorry for anyone going over this weekend, it's going to be warm and (probably from Sun/Mon) pretty darned wet if that chart turns out to be true.
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carled, 's ok, my ski gear is waterproof! Very Happy Still be snowing up on the glacier Very Happy
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Sorry to bring a downer on the recent rejoicing but weather graphs and snowforecast.com are showing very poor conditions for snow over next few days through out the French Alps. High temps and low precipitation. Quite new to this franctic worrying about snow thing. What do others think ? Puzzled
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I think there is nothing I can do about it NehNeh
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wmmmw, I think we have all tried that - it tends to end in disappointment most of the time Razz
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stevo_the_saddler, metcheck shows rising temps in Serre Che, but only until Sat or Sun, when the temp falls again, and it is raining at 1200m but snowing higher up.
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To add to my post from a couple of days back, if you compare the chart from today to the previous one, it looks to me like the onset of the cold spell is moving backwards and is less"cold" than it was looking a couple of days back.



However, the trend is at least continuing downwards and is showing signs of precipitation, which is good news!

Just goes to show though... look at the spike of precipitation for the 27th on the first chart then look in the same space on this one...
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