 Poster: A snowHead
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I took my new Rossignol B2 (174cm) skis to a ski shop and paid £25 to have the bindings (Rossignol axial2) mounted.
When I got home I noticed that on one of the skis, the bindings were not in the middle of the ski. When you look at the bindings from directly above the ski, it sits almost flush with the left edge of the ski and 4-5mm in from the right hand edge. When the brake is down the metal bar touches the right edge edge and is 4-5mm away from the left edge.
The front and rear binding are both out by 4-5mm so effectively my boot is not perfectly centered over the ski although they do appear to be in a straight line with each other down the length of the ski.
My question is, what problems could this cause during skiing? Or is the offset distance so small that It wouldn't make any difference?
Cheers
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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yes it will make a difference. Its debatable how much, but take them back, they messed up and need to get it fixed. Thats it, end of story.
Wide skis are "harder" to get the mounting jig onto, but still no excuse. Rossignol/look made a decent jig, and the B2s sidewalls are vertical enough it is not that hard to do correctly.
4-5mm gap on wide side means 2-2.5mm off center, but still. I would expect the "technician" had one side of the jig on the edge, and the other just on the sidewall. If he managed that (only speculation) then it is reasonable to assume that the holes were not drilled quite straight. I have seen some rossignol B2/B3 skis where Rossignol have got the little metal plate that is under the binding off centre, and a check on that might of thrown off the tech. Many get confused by the graphics, which are frequently never square on the skis.
Last edited by Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person on Mon 30-10-06 1:04; edited 1 time in total
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Thanks for the replies.
The little metal plate under the binding is smack in the centre of the ski and the binding sits noticably to one side of it.
I'll take the skis back but I'm not sure how they will rectify this problem.
If they move the bindings over, then they'd be drilling into the edge of the same holes!
What do you think that they will suggest as a solution?
The only thing I can think is that they will re-mount the bindings on both skis slightly further forward or backward on the skis.
Would that be an acceptable solution or could the close proximity of the old holes cause a problem?
Would moving the bindings back or forward change the balance of the skis at all?
Thanks again for your help
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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There have been threads on this before - if its their negligence I think the solution was determined to be that they replace the skis at their cost then they can plug the damaged ones and try to sell them on, but have a search.
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boris360, they need to give you a new pair of skis and mount the bindings correctly. End of story. If they don't offer this right away, talk with the manager or the owner. They need to do it and do not give up until that's what they do.
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Yes mounting forward or backward of the correct mounting position would affect the the they ski.
In my honest opinion the only acceptable solution is bindings mounted in the correct place. If that means new skis because they can't be re-drillde then that is the shops issue not yours. I'm sure you would have paid alot of money for your skis and you should not settle for anything other than how they should be.
If you end up with replacements i would suggest not having the binding mounted until youget to resort.
I hope everything gets sorted.
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Frankly, it's almost impossible to mis-mount a binding if you have the binding jigs and take even a modicum of care in doing the work. They self-centre, and there's no reason not to get it right if you "measure twice, cut once." I would not hesitate to have it done at the same place, but I would make it clear that I would be measuring them before I leave.
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ssh,
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Frankly, it's almost impossible to mis-mount a binding
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....don't you believe it...! As my Grandfather used to say,...."What's possible has been done....what's impossible will be done...."
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| BernardC wrote: |
ssh,
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Frankly, it's almost impossible to mis-mount a binding
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....don't you believe it...! As my Grandfather used to say,...."What's possible has been done....what's impossible will be done...." |
Oh, I know. That's the reason I said it the way that I did. It's really a very simple process, but you do have to pay attention. Some people don't. But, the customer should never pay for what is 100% the negligence of the tech doing the mount.
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Frankly, it's almost impossible to mis-mount a binding
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the scenario i gave above shows you one way. no excuse though.
£25 is a perfectly reasonable charge for a professional job with the specialist tools. Its also a decent margin to pay for new skis on say the few % they screw up.
boris260 do you care to name and shame the store?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| paulhothersall wrote: |
| boris260 do you care to name and shame the store? |
Maybe give the shop a chance to put things right first. Remember the thread with the other guy who wasn't happy with his mountings?
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| FenlandSkier wrote: |
| paulhothersall wrote: |
| boris260 do you care to name and shame the store? |
Maybe give the shop a chance to put things right first. Remember the thread with the other guy who wasn't happy with his mountings? |
fair point
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You know it makes sense.
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Yes, I'll take on board all of the advice and comments that you have all made and take the skis back to the shop and see what they say.
To be fair to the store, I haven't even told them of the problem yet so they've not had a chance to sort it out. I just wanted to get the opinions of a few snow heads first to gauge whether I was being over fussy and what it was reasonable to expect the shop to do about it.
"New skis" seems to be the unanimous verdict.
They (the store) have always been very helpfull in the past so I'm confident they'll be fair with me.
It'll be a few days before I get the chance to go back so I'll let you know what the outcome is when I've been.
Thanks for your input everyone!
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