 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello fellow  's!
I got a pair of K2 fujatives last season, altho I am tempted to get this years version..... (i kinda prefer the graphics more... yes, i know, very vain  )
Mainly got them because they suited me when testing them and cheap. However i didn't pay much attention to the positioning of the bindings at the time, which are mounted off centre, i.e. a few cm back from the middle; just wondered what difference does this make in terms of normal piste skiing, using them in the park and in powder? And if I get them re-mounted, what difference, if any would it make to the strength of the ski and my ability to say, actually pull off some tricks?
Oh and I guess I would class myself as an intermediate skier, can handle reds and blacks..... don't like moguls(!!!) and am attempting to learn (get the courage) to get into a bit of freestyle.
Cheers!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Cee, of our regular posters, I think spyderjon is the expert on these matters. You could send him a PM if he doesn't turn up to answer this.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Cee, Sorry but I'm not familiar with the K2 Fujative bindings locations......I think WTFH & Edmund009 are up to speed on the K2's, however the basic premis is that the more forward the position (within reason) helps turn initiation.
The ski's various binding location markings are basically designed for mounting for 'Mr Average' so they're going to be ok but not the best for 'you'. I'm a fan of the using the Campbell Balancing method for determining individual binding location but only once any boot balancing/alignment work has been done. There aren't any Campbell Balancers in the UK & I'm in the process of manufacturing my own. My recommendation would be to mount your bindings so that your Ball of Foot is over the CRS (Centre of Running Surface) of the ski. Any competent tech should be able to do that for you.
However, the above mounting method is for piste/off-piste use & I'm not sure how this location would work for park use. I think that the ideal locations for general use & park use are likely to be different so you'll probably have to compromise if you're planning on doing both.
Re-drilling once shouldn't weaken the ski for normal use providing the old holes are properly plugged etc - not sure for jumps though.
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Cee, Are you saying you want to get more into freestyle? if so, moving the mounting point towards the middle wil improve the ability to ski switch, swing weight, doing rails etc, so it will be a substantial difference. Normal piste-type carving will be trickier though.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Cee, as skibomb said - mounting them nearer the middle will make them easier to ride switch, etc, but will make piste and powder skiing more difficult.
As for re-drilling, it depends where they are currently mounted, and where you want to remount them - if it is only to move them 1cm forward or back, then I would advise against it, as the two sets of holes will be pretty close together, which could cause problems.
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Cee, so long as any holes are 10mm apart or more there is NO PROBLEM with redrilling skis (within reason, you don't want swiss cheese to slide on)
anything less and the ski should be helicoiled and within reason not a major problem, wouldn't want to do to many like that if you are hitting bumps, jumps & rails etc.
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Cee, how far out are they?
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Wear The Fox Hat, front part of the binding is about 4-5 cm from where the markings say core center.
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Cee, OK, do you see a marking that says "Mid sole mark"?
Now, put a ski boot in the bindings - is there a mark on the side of the boot - about half way along. Does it line up with the Mid sole mark, or where does it line up?
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Wear The Fox Hat, it doesn't line up on the mid sole mark, but on the +3cm mark. Also, just noticed one of the screws on the binding is coming loose, such that i can see part of the screw in between the binding and ski, but i cant seem to tighten it down.... any suggestions?
Thanks
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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that i can see part of the screw in between the binding and ski, but i cant seem to tighten it down.... any suggestions?
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Take it to the shop before that puppy rusts.
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Cee, what comprex says!
As for where they are mounted - that's about perfect (in my book) for 50% on piste, 40% park, 10% powder. Moving them forward from there, and forget about powder, and lose a lot of control on piste at anything faster than a slow walking pace. If you just want them for the park, take them forward maybe another 2cm, but don't blame me when they handle like a big steaming pile of poo when you're facing forward, and on the snow. 
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You know it makes sense.
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Cheers for the advice, will go to my local dry slope (Christchurch) / shop and get them to look at the binding. Always an pain when I go in there, always end up buying stuff!
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