 Poster: A snowHead
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At present I use Adidas goggles with an optical insert, which I'm not too keen on, they do work but I have steaming up problems.
Can I get a normal pair of goggles and have prescription lenses done for them, the same goes for sunglasses??
What do other people use and what works best??
Finally what is the best colour lense to use for all round use, in general I always ski in goggles and helmet whatever the weather.
Thanks
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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The obvious answer for most of us speccies is contact lenses. Assuming they don't work for you then any OTG designated goggle should work over glasses - you need to physically try them on though. I bought a pair last year when I had an eye infection & couldn't use contacts & found them to be ok though I was had to hold my breath when putting them on etc to minimise fogging.
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fatbob, Don't really fancy the OTG goggles to be honest, I may try contacts as a last resort but don't really like putting things in and taking them out of my eyes, what do people use daily disposibles? I just wondered if there was another solution?
Thanks
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I had tried wearing goggles over my glasses before but it was never comfortable so ended up wearing just the prescription shades and hoping they didn't fall off. I finally got round to having a go with contacts though last year and its much better now. Wearing contacts was also the only realistic option for when I had a go down a bobsleigh run last year as well because there was no way a pair of glasses would have stayed in place during that.
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| Alpinebullit wrote: |
| fatbob, Don't really fancy the OTG goggles to be honest, I may try contacts as a last resort but don't really like putting things in and taking them out of my eyes, what do people use daily disposibles? I just wondered if there was another solution? |
I was once like you, wearing glasses and skiing. I had some of those goggles that you could wear over you prescription glasses, and to be hones, that is a feels really impractical.
A couples of years ago I completely switched to contacts, and I have never looked back! It's like being 'normal' again!!  And the putting them in and out, at first it was a bit fiddely, but after a week or so, you get the hang of it. I feels so much better to just use the set of goggles you want and you never have to worry about your shades being prescription ones, so you can even go and buy those 'disposable' 10$ shades.
Anyways, I can only give contacts my best recommandations. I think nothing beats being able to see and not wearing glasses in terms of practicalness. I cannot get 1-day lenses because of my astigmatism, but monthly lenses aren't really that much of a hassle. Most opticians around here offer a free 30-days trial period for new users, I suggest that you go and at least try it out. And don't worry, its not like you have to touch your own eyeball for minuts, its just a quick and simple job of slipping on the lens on you eye.
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We might have to start calling you the AlpineBat soon arf arf...
Hope all's well mate, cheers for now.
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Are the goggles you are using currently double lens and well vented?
I use contacts. Daily disposable, soft lenses. But I find I get dry eyes, and after an operation on my eye when younger they are not that comfortable! but I make do. They do a full fitting at the opticians, and they show you how to put them in and such, and you will get a weeks free trial generally so you can get used to them.
You can get prescription goggles, but the only place I have found them is online from America. Only certain brands do them, and they are expensive. But if you can't do contacts, they are certainly cheaper than laser surgery! 
Prescription ski sunglasses on the other hand are easier to come by, but very expensive, and again only certain brands. Do an online search and you will get a decent selection. Or go into your closest vision express, if they are an oakley stockist then you can order prescription oakleys from them. But this is a very expensive option!
Yellow/Amber/Gold lenses are the best in most conditions. Although not as good for bright conditions. But the best all-rounder
Hope all this helps.
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Thanks for the info Strid, and jopo, I really appreciate it, I think a trip to the opticians is in order for my winter skiing, as I say I generally wear goggles all the time on the slopes. It is time to give contacts a go. However prescription sunglasses may well be purchased for my other sporting activities and could be considered a possibiltiy for late season trips to the slopes.
Thankyou very very much 
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Alpinebullit, I use daily diposables - they have such a high water content now and are very flexible so really doesn't hurt wearing them or putting them in out. ANd of course there is no messing about with cleaning and solutions!
Have had no problems skiing or snowboarding in them, or cycling, running, swimming or hockey come to mention it.
Also means I have the flexibility to wear goggles or sunglasses depeniding on weather
Other big plus for me, as we drive to alps, is no annoying rear reflections from headlights.
Tend to wear them 12 hours a day but try and have 1/2 day with glasses to give eys a break
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| Alpinebullit wrote: |
| Thanks for the info Strid, and jopo, I really appreciate it, I think a trip to the opticians is in order for my winter skiing, as I say I generally wear goggles all the time on the slopes. It is time to give contacts a go. |
You will never look back once you've gotten into contacts! (Although you will be able to do so much easier!) 
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What Strid, said - wearing contacts makes things much easier! Back to the main topic tho - I got a pair of minutes, silver frame with black/silver lens; which i use when it's sunny. When it's horrible weather or flat light, I use my pair of A frames, with the yellow/orange lens. This is when I'm not wearing my helmet. Since getting a helmet, I've found myself wearing goggles regardless of if I'm wearing a helmet or not.... and find that the goggles give me
I find that the minutes fit me well and work for me. The a frames, I pretty much got what was in the shop - I do think that Oakleys are expensive, however they do the job. I also freely admit, that I'm a "brands person" and think that it's nice to look good, but at the same time, not at the expense of getting equipment which doesn't do the job.
I saw somewhere that you can get replacement straps for oakley googles so they fit better over a helmet - anyone know of any shops / websites which sell these? If not I'll have to try justify buying a new pair of goggles.... won't be hard I'm sure! 
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Alpinebullit, 'nother vote for contacts. Mine aren't disposable. Wear them most of the time - not (for example) on the drive down to the alps tho .... too long.
Goggles work just fine. Did have one lens pop out once - and stick itself to the inside of the google lens. Was a complete bgr to put back on - it was a very windy day !
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I use Adidas goggles with an optical insert, which I'm not too keen on, they do work but I have steaming up problems
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I used to have that problem, with my Bolle goggles/inserts. However, since I switched over to wearing a helmet rather than a fleece hat, it cured itself. A welcome side-effect of wearing a helmet! I have found a properly ventilated helmet to be a great anti-fogging device, the anti-helmet argument of them being hot & sweaty doesn't tally with my experience.
Or you could try contacts of course. I used to wear them but as I only have a low prescription I just use the insert now, as it saves faffing about in the mornings. If you have a higher prescription it is worth giving them a go.
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You know it makes sense.
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the ice perv, Sorry I should have mentioned I've skied in a helmet for the last 4 years now, its properly ventilated and my latest helmet is a giro9 but I still have the fogging problem  . I never ski without my helmet and goggles whatever the weather.
Cheers for the thought though
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Alpinebullit wrote: |
| but I still have the fogging problem |
I have some spray that I use on my motorcyle helmet visor in the winter that stops it fogging up in the winter and have sometimes used that on my glasses/ goggles or whatever else is between my eyes and the view ahead.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Focus dailies..without question, just makes ordering food a bit hit and miss, but perfect for outdoors
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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 JT, don't mind about the difficulties in ordering food, give me clear unsteamed goggles any day of the week.
Cheers
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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they are certainly cheaper than laser surgery
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depends how long for.... we gave our daughter laser surgery for her 21st birthday (the youngest they will do it). She had both eyes done at once. Horrendous, and she was quite sore, with poor vision, for several weeks whilst it healed. But her vision (in the words of her optician, not a huge fan of laser surgery) is now "amazing". She likes diving, surfing and windsurfing as well as snowsports so it's been a great success for her. I think she was very brave - she said she was very glad she'd had both eyes done at once because she didn't think she'd have gone back for the second, after it was so sore.
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| JT wrote: |
| Focus dailies..without question, just makes ordering food a bit hit and miss, but perfect for outdoors |
hahah that made me chuckle. I use focus dailies and used them when skiing. They are great.
I have found driving with contacts when it is dark, and low light is more tiring that glasses, but maybe that is just me. But I love wearing contact lenses for swimming, skiing and socialising. But as I use a computer a lot, I stick with glasses during the day.
Oh and whoever mentioned they have astigmatism, my one eye is astigmatic, and I get weighted daily disposable lenses for it.
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Alpinebullit, Another vote for contacts. I wear glasses 90% of the time. I have astigmatisms and use daily torics which as strid says, are only available in one relatively small astigmatic correction.
I can reach driving standards of vision with daily disposables, and swim, ski and bike with them. Tried the monthlies which correct better for astigmatism and they were a complete faff.
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I've just got an optical insert for my Adidas goggles - used to ski with glasses under goggles and had no problems at all, but this won't work with a helmet. I can't wear contact lenses because of my prescription (very high myopia plus bad astigmatism) which my optician confirms cannot be corrected with any kind of contact lens. Also I have had cataracts removed, so I need varifocals, and would need glasses as well as contacts for middle and near distance. This might not seem relevant for skiing, but in fact you do use middle distance (say 3 to 5 feet) quite a lot, particularly in lift queues and such.
So the optical insert was the only way to go. Hope they don't get too fogged, but I have some good stuff that stops my motorcycle visor steaming up which I could try if they do.
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Unless there is no way you can use contacts for any of the above reasons, I would recommend everyone to use them. I can put mine in in a gondola and you just throw the dailies away in the bar.... I only use them for sports so a months-worth last me all year...well, 30 days use, plus I get a check-up every-time I re-order...perfect...!! I have never lost one despite a few head plants...and I take a spare or two , just in case..!!
I have though about laser surgery, but my Optician will not have them done himself yet, so I will hold fire for a little while yet...
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used to ski with glasses under goggles and had no problems at all, but this won't work with a helmet
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Why not? I wear varifocals but can ski without them (put them in my pocket for reading menus). But sometimes, if I want to look at piste maps a lot in a new area, I wear glasses, goggles and helmet. No problem - I agree that a helmet reduces fogging problems but I will get some anti fog stuff for next year.
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I'm tuning into this thread with great interest. I've worn contacts for the best part of 20 years, and now the opticians saying that I should wear them less and less. I've stopped wearing them at weekends and am being asked to wear for less than 10 hours a day (diffcult when you leave for work at 7 and get home after 6....), the main reason they want me to wear them less is so oxygen can get at the eyes, not an easy thing with the old fashioned soft lenses I have which I keep for years on end. I'm astigmatic so it's only recently that disposables have got to the level of my eyes, tried a few in the last few weeks but don't match up with what I need to feel comfortable to drive in. So back to the old lenses and wearing them for sports and leisure and accept the toll of time for work and wear glasses ..... To make it worse I now need reading glasses, age it gets to us all.
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So the optical insert was the only way to go. Hope they don't get too fogged, but I have some good stuff that stops my motorcycle visor steaming up which I could try if they do.
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Adidas yodai + optical insert+helmet+liberal use of "zero fog" lens treatment+use of Smith anti-fog cloth on the lift=no fogging.
It is a hassle but effective, much more so than OTG googles, which are helmet compatible until you add glasses to the equation. The only thing I find you must not do with the Yodai + insert set up is start using a neck gaiter, I'm not quite sure why this causes fogging but it does. I guess a cold face is the price you have to pay for being able to see.
UVEX on the other hand seem to do an integrated goggle/prescription arrangement. See for instance http://www.sportrx.com/order.asp?product_id=U001 , note that the prescription range is restricted. I have no idea whether this works or not and I'd want to check the safety aspects but it seems worth a look.
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I struggled in Canada in January last year, the cold conditions meant neck gaiter or jacket done right up (whilst tucking my face down into my jacket on the lifts) and I suffered again serious fogging problems with my yodai's with inserts but I didn't know about or have the zero fog lens treatment. I think I'm gonna try contacts this year but will take the yodai's and inserts as a back up but I'll also arm myself with the zero fog treatment.
Thanks for all the info  's
Cheers
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What an interesting thread and I thought it was only me who had these hassles!
I'm another contacts person - for years I had major problems with goggles and glasses, to the extent that at one stage it put me off skiing a bit. Now I buy daily disposables to use when I ski - I had a proper contact lense test (don't be tempted to use a prescription for glasses) and then just bought a small pack from the opticians and when they run out will top them up via some of the internet shops that sell them cheaply (just search in Google). I normally wear glasses full-time although a few years ago I wore contact lenses most of the time but the one time I can't cope with specs is skiing and contacts solve the problems totally.
The other related problem I was having was an inability to ski at any speed without eye protection because my eyes water dreadfully to the point where I can't see, which is rather bad! With glasses no matter what I did they fogged (and I found most goggles I've tried fog with or without) so I now use wrap around specs which protect my eyes with contacts instead of specs - works perfectly in all conditions
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