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Alastair Pink, true but when they have places like Poughkeepsie it's easier sometimes to just 'spell it as you say it'.

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FenlandSkier, you and your fone-eticks

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This sequence of Rocca

just gets me gaping. To quote spyderjon. Hot Damn.

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"Hot damn"

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...all we need now is some Apple Pie...

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dont forget the hot tub and a beer Laughing

Linds, trip to Michelles??? Laughing

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Wear The Fox Hat, Linds & marc gledhill, on that subject I seem to have 'deleted' the hot tub pics from ESA that one of you guys sent me so please email replacements. Ta

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spyderjon, you mean this one...
http://photos.wtfh.com/album/Epic%202006/slides/40.html

You know it makes sense.

That Ron LeMaster does super stuff doesn't he? I am thinking (thinking I am) that the gentleman in the backseat is one Mr. Miller - Now, girls and boys.... wink

this is not the sequence you should be looking at when appreciating near perfect technique. Laughing

However, for the less initiated watching this thread you should also note that although (because it's slalom) the skiers are putting their outside hands forward to block the gate, their INSIDE SHOULDER is ahead in all cases. Many intermediates make the mistake of bringing their outside hand, arm and shoulder through the turn first = rotation = flat skis = problem on ice or steep.

Alastair Pink, Thank you - I'll remember that one (don't think I've ever seen it written before, but the place is the topic of a famous quote from the film Hot DoG) Very Happy

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Wear The Fox Hat, That's them. I think that there was a few of them if you could ping then to me. Ta.

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veeeight, who are just "talking the talk". wink

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ssh & easiski, Been away for a couple of days just seen your responses. I think he was really saying that perhaps I hadn't been taught some of the basic techniques before trying to get my skis on edge. I'm sure all will be sorted in January in LDA Smile

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Don't confuse (easily done) backseat with extending the ankles and placing the BoS ahead of the CoM at the start of the turn.

Taking Mr.Miller as an example:

Bode thrusts his feet ahead as he makes the transition between turns. By doing this, Bode establishes more inclination and greater edge angle earlier than most of his opponents. This enables him to get his skis up on edge earlier-and farther-than others, resulting in a tighter turn.

You can clearly see from the 1st frame to the 5th frame how his ankles go from fully flexed to fully extended.

Bode's secret lies in what his body does during the transition. His CoM takes a more direct line down the hill through the transition than his feet do. Even though his CoM is behind his feet in the transition, Bode uses his remarkable agility and balance to catch up with his feet by the time he starts to carve, thereby putting him in balance over the forebody of his ski.

You can also see this move done by Rocca (above) - but Bode's angles and range is far more.

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Sorry. Base of Support.

Which in the main, are the feet, and can be supplemented by a pole plant, for example in bumps or steeps.

Are you now seeing Bode's transitions in a different light?

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Thanks veeeight - but you'll need to elucidate on why Bode isn't in the backseat in frames 4 and 5...

I would say it's a pedantic nuance.

I demonstrated this at Tamworth the other evening to 3 BASI instructors, I skied 2 runs, 1 in the backseat, and 1 moving my feet ahead of my CoM in the turn transition. Until they saw this for themselves side-on about 3 feet away from me, it was hard to convey what the difference was.

The time between frames 3 & 5 is milliseconds. Bode's thrust of the feet forward is a tactical manouevre in order to gain an advantage of an early edge higher up in the turn than his competitors. Through his strength and athleticism he can re-direct his CoM down the fall line whilst his feet take a different route. The reason I'm hesitant to say that he's in the backseat is that during those few milliseconds between frames 3 & 5 his CoM and BoS are travelling in different directions (at right angles, if you like).

The conventional view of backseat in a recreational skier is the knees getting bent, bum moving behind and down in the opposite direction to their feet. So no forward movement of their feet, no sideways movement in their body.

Bode on the other hand is moving his feet forward and his body down the hill (say at 90 degrees to his feet).

Oh. And he's leaning on his inside pole in the last frame. And pointing his outside pole sideways. Must be a crap skier then. rolling eyes

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veeeight, I'm assuming you've posted a pic of Bode in your post at 2241. I can't see it!? Can you give me a url to follow? Little Angel

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slikedges, PM'd you, but puzzled why you cant see the pic....

veeeight, now on the subject of Bode....... anyone who can drink as much as he can and spend the night (well until 6am) entertaining a young lady then go and get an olympic medal isw a good skier in my books Toofy Grin

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Yes - but he's an exception that proves the rule. No "normal" skiers should try to emulate him. Only Bode can ski like Bode - copy Rocca or better still Benni9e Raich. Very Happy

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easiski, Raiche rocks and he is really nice guy see the link for a nice piccy of him at schladming

http://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=17605

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rob@rar, Yes - but I'd rather watch Bennie any day of the week - he's my (current) hero. Very Happy

Nice pic CEM,

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I use it all the time in those situations, but also in elephant snot, sierra cement, variable crud, etc.

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veeeight, thanks for the PM Very Happy

But I still can't see it!! Puzzled

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Anyone else having this problem?

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slikedges, what do you see instead? If using IE and you see a little red X, something in your chain from ISP to screen is probably blocking the pic link. For example. my router blocks some snowheads' signature pics as it thinks they are pornography/illegal/other dubious nature.

Yoda, that's exactly what I see, but I've never had a problem seeing any images before unless either the server at the other end was overstretched or my link was dodgy; I've got the hardware firewall going on the router and zone alarm but no filters on, either hard or soft, as far as I know Puzzled

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slikedges, on mine it was the parental controls. Try turning Zone Alarm off and see if it makes any difference.

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