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Do new skis need and preperation before use, ie waxing?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Renry, I would normally put wax on new skis. Some will put several layers on. Some will go out with just the shipping wax on them. It's entirely up to you.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I like to give them a good waxing, scrape and another wax. I find it helps the base absorb wax more easily in the future.
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| Wear The Fox Hat wrote: |
| Renry, I would normally put wax on new skis. Some will put several layers on. Some will go out with just the shipping wax on them. It's entirely up to you. |
Some "new" skis have been in such warm dry shops that the factory wax has all but gone so I think you want to wax after you buy, especially if you are not going to be skiing for a few months (e.g. summer sale).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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You should get a small rounded mallet and gently tap all over the business face of the skis for several hours. Alternatively use a cricket ball inside a sock.
It works for cricket bats so it should be good for skis.
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WWDGD?
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| richmond wrote: |
You should get a small rounded mallet and gently tap all over the business face of the skis for several hours. Alternatively use a cricket ball inside a sock.
It works for cricket bats so it should be good for skis. |
LOL - Fantastic. Made my day.
Interestingly my brand spanking new board appeared to have had the same thing done at the factory, but maybe with a pin hammer . . . .
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Nope.
Get a proper hot wax job done.
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doesn't that hurt though, when they rip it off???
Are we talking about beautification here or am I on the wrong forum!
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Nothing like a good waxing to get your black run slick 
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Renry,
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Is this stuff suitable ?
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It won't hurt. Zardoz or (better still) a proper hotwax will be better. You skis will not come to any harm, if you do neither tho' Just keep an eye on the base, and if it's drying out after a couple of days use, get them waxed again 
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richmond, Re: the mallet or cricket ball - make sure you pay particular attention to the edges to get them well knocked in
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You know it makes sense.
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Can anyone suggest a suitable place near leeds that does ski servicing
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Poster: A snowHead
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Renry, New skis arrive at the store with manufacturing crap in the pores and microscopic hairs left on the base from the original grind. The factory wax is also for protection rather than performance. The crap needs to be cleaned out & by hot scraping with a warm, low melting point wax. Then the more wax applications you can give the skis the better as it really loads up the base which greatly improves performance & protection. Even better are the specific waxes just for this purpose like Dominator Zoom Base Renew or Holmenkol Base Prep for which one application is like 5 applications of normal wax. Between each wax cycle (leaving the wax to fully cool before scraping) give the skis loads of brass brushing & fiberpad passes. Top World Cup tuners may do 50 waxes & scrape cycles plus maga brushing on their race skis before they’re skied on so don’t think you’re being anal by doing it a few times!
Whilst a store will wax your skis they won't first hot scrape them to clean them & their machine applied wax isn't allowed to cool before removal which doesn't help absortion.
If your around Nottingham anytime I can offer you my 'NS TUNE' for £15.00 which is a new ski base prep consisting of: Hot wax/scrape base to clean, brass brush to open the structure, hot wax with Dominator Zoom Graphite Renew base prep wax, cool & scrape, brass brush, hot wax with Dominator Zoom Lime universal wax, cool & scrape, polish with brass, horsehair & nylon brushes.
Alternatively I usually work in Harewood, Leeds on a Monday so could collect them & return them the following week.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Renry, we got our skis this year and got them waxed before taking them out for the first time just in case
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks all for the help and advice, thats also a very kind offer spyderjon, but when im staying in leeds im only 15 mins away from this shop i found while browsing the web http://severnsports.co.uk/catalog/ these offer servicing.
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spyderjon, You da man! 
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New Skis supplied coated in Zardox-Not-Wax, a quick wipe on flouro solution for one day use - how to correct this potential problem?
I bought the skis late in the day and the shop just wanted to close so although they said give us 20 minutes and we'll give them a base coat of regular wax they came back in 5 minutes stone cold with no signs of melted on wax but very slippery.
Will this solution cause a proper future iron on base layer of wax not to adhere properly.
Should I take these new £550 skis back and insist on a fresh start?
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Slomo, welcome to snowheads. The ZN application won't do them any harm whatsoever & you can just hot wax on top.
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Slomo, Many people use Zardoz under the wax. It 's an old racers trick and helps the base wax to last. Not a problem at all, a very good thing. Zardoz recommend this too on their website.Every time I hot wax my skis I give them a quick wipe with the stuff, and also when doing a proper base prep.
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spyderjon, Sorry, cross posting there lol. The last Zardoz supply you sent me is lasting well... thanks 
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Being a terrible person I don't normally bother to wax skis despite owning a plethora of brushes and such. I can report that none of them have exploded yet and they still slide down hills.
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Read this and felt guilty. I've been out on my new skis (that were waxed in the shop) for a week now so given it's snowing/raining decided to give them some love. So a good wax and hot scrape, even after six times there was still a bit of crap coming out. Very satisfying.
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Just been out for a week on my new Kneissl's.....factory waxed. No issues at all. They were bloody fast
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Cacciatore, they were "bloody fast" for your feel but if they would be taken care of properly, they would be even a lot faster
Thing is, you won't really see much with not waxing skis after every skiing, and you won't see much if you get skis from store and put them on snow. Skis won't explode if you don't take care of them, they won't even fall apart or anything this big. But even if you don't see this, properly maintained skis are different. Base is different, it acts different, and on the end skiing is different. Yes sure, I still do some 20 cycles when I get new skis before they touch snow for first time, but I have this back from days when I was racing and when I was being serviceman on world cup, and every second counted. So no, you don't need to do 20+ cycles before you put skis on snow, but it's very good to do some 5 or 6 at least preferably some more. And even after skiing, you wax them, not once a year, but after every skiing. Waxes last some 30-40km (sometimes a bit more, sometimes a bit less, depending on this how aggressive snow is), and then wax is gone and ski base is clean, which means ptex pores are open for all the dirt in snow. Once dirt is there, it's really hard to get it out. Best you can see this, when you don't wax your skis for year, and then try to wax them. Ptex just doesn't absorb wax at all and in those cases stone grinding is only solution.
So considering you are paying few 100 euros (most likely 500+) for skis, is it really so hard to give a bit care for something, which will bring you lot of fun, and if nothing else, costs quite lot of money I get my skis for free every year, yet I still take care of them. If nothing else, skiing is more fun on properly maintained skis then on some crap noone looks after
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primoz, whatever makes you happy dude.
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You know it makes sense.
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