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According to SAP (The La Plagne lift company)
In 2005/2006, SAP sold a little more than 2,5 millions day ski passes, less 70 000 than last year. 62% of visitors were French, 15% of them were English
Full story from Romain Guigon at http://www.perso-laplagne.fr/News.htm
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brian
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So much for the Vanoise express boosting the numbers 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I thought half term week was quieter than previous years 
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Did more people buy the week (or other multiday) Paradiski pass instead?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Any idea how the 15% compares to other resorts? It seems very high to me but where we are the total number of British visitors over a season is probably less than 400!
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skanky, I think maybe the phrase was 'skier days' rather day ski passes, a little difference in the translation perhaps
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boredsurfin, makes sense looking at the numbers.
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boredsurfin, Great pictures on that link - just imagine that's my chair and my home run! Exciting or what!....yes i promise to get out more...
Couldn't find any link to the SAP reduced sales story.......is there a link somewhere to the full story?
From the headline it seems specific to 'Day' ski passes - I wonder if that's La Plagne only day passes, or Paradiski day ski passes. There may very well have been a corresponding increase in 3-day, weekly, or forthnightly passes. I wonder how they assess & record nationality.
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ben wright, I thought the 15% quite low considering the amount of signposting, leaflets and other items that are translated into English for us
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How do they define "English"?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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'Rosbifs' - people who eat roast beef
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boredsurfin, This was obviously going to happen if you think about it. They've all gone to La Rosiere
Wear The Fox Hat, Anywhere that has Dublin or Belfast as a capital
Last edited by And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports. on Tue 26-09-06 15:46; edited 1 time in total
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Good as reason as any to go to La Plagne! 
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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LARGEZOOKEEPER, ...or Madrid....
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I would like to see the numbers from other ski areas as I am sure this is probably not just an isolated case. I'm sure Alpe D'Huez was quieter than normal last season as well.... 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Numbers up in La Ros 
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RG, That all makes sense now, but do the figures relate to La Plagne passes only, or Paradiski passes?
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There is no great mystery to the la Plagne figures. The resort was open for 7 fewer days in 2006.
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BernardC, yep, it's only for La Plagne (SAP for Société d'Aménagement de La Plagne)
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| davidof wrote: |
| There is no great mystery to the la Plagne figures. The resort was open for 7 fewer days in 2006. |
7 days makes 70000 skier days difference, 10 k per day 
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I was there at the end of Jan and the conditions were not good for a few weeks before we got there and a week or two after.
It did pick up well in Feb I am lead to believe.
So I would say the numbers reflect the poor conditions for those weeks.
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| davidof wrote: |
| There is no great mystery to the la Plagne figures. The resort was open for 7 fewer days in 2006. |
7 days makes 70000 skier days difference, 10 k per day |
I think you need to go back to skool!
2,508,948 skier days in 2005/2006 for a 141 day season, that is 17,794 skier days per day. A half day lift pass counts as half a skier/day.
2,673,349[1] skier days in 2004/2006 for a 148 day season, that is 18,063 skier days per day.
[1]This gives a drop in skier days of 170k -6% but it is possible someone has mistyped this figure as it looks a lot like the 2003/4 figure. I will try to check it.
So the resort suffered a drop of just under 1% in the number of visitors per day (given my figure), probably due to the climatic conditions during the winter. This corresponds closely to a 0.82% drop in their turnover.
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Tue 26-09-06 20:05; edited 2 times in total
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davidof, Posting before putting brain in gear 
The biggest surprise I thought was that only 15% were English, how does this compare to other French resorts of relative size (La Ros excepted of course!)
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boredsurfin, Possible I must to go to shool, but English = 41% of 38% of foreigners...So English = 15% of visitors...ok ?
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RG, Romain yes! but I thought more English people were in LP. 
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You know it makes sense.
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
davidof, Posting before putting brain in gear
The biggest surprise I thought was that only 15% were English, how does this compare to other French resorts of relative size (La Ros excepted of course!) |
Hmmm.... I would have thought somewhere like Meribel would be higher. I had the figures for l'alpe d'huez and it was something like 30% (tbc) but the resort is virtually run by the tour operators. The overall figure for france is 30% foreign visitors, 70% french with the french figure dropping off as people move from winter ski holidays to winter "sun" type holidays.
In some of my local resorts the figure is too small to measure.
La Plagne is still no.1 for France and probably in the world.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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RG, How are the figures categorised, if a skier in La Plagne, buys a Paradiski pass. Does this count in the annual figures quoted? - or does a skier have to buy a La Plagne pass and then a supplementary Paradiski pass?
How does the company categorise the nationality of skiers? Are they asked this question at point of purchase?
PERso Laplagne - great site. I shall follow it with avid interest. I spent last season in Bourg St. Maurice, but will be below La Plagne for this season. Hopefully we can meet up for a ski sometime. 
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Poster: A snowHead
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I suppose that a skier who buy a Paradiski ski pass in La Plagne lives there, so he will be count for La Plagne...
I believe that SAP asks to visitors their country...
Thanks for your compliments. I created this website...4 years ago 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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RG,
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Thanks for your compliments. I created this website...4 years ago
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Romain, the site gets better every year, thank you.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I was there for a day during that period. I did not have the Paradiski pass because I have been to LP before but not Les Arcs.
Very nice lunch in Skanapia restaurant (or something like that) in Montalbert.
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Latchigo,
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Very nice lunch in Skanapia restaurant (or something like that) in Montalbert
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It's nice but Trappeures bar and restaurant is even nicer
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Is that statistically significant?
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If the English are 15% of visitors are there any Scots and Welsh and what's the figure if they're added in?
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roga, I suppose that "English" are all the unhabitants of UK. French people don't do the difference between Scotland, England, UK...
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RG, yes my comment was a little disingenuous in that I suspected that was the case.
Mind you, they always have an extra big smile for me in in France when I'm asked if I'm English and I retort with a "non, écossais" - they seem to understand that well enough
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Just a difference between both : we have never made war on Scotland !
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