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Further to my post yesterday, just curious to get views on the above, I've heard all the usual stuff about the place i.e. its cheap, unpretentious and a bit run down etc!......have never been to any of the three valley resorts so was considering it this year, may be swayed by expert views of the snowheads!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Great skiing, huge and varied piste network, some very good (but expensive) ski schools, lift pass not good value for money if you'll only ski a small fraction of the domain, eating and nightlife can be very expensive although you don't have to spend a fortune if you choose the cheaper places to eat and drink. My favourite resort.
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The skiing is great. It is made up of several seperate villages: (very) generally the lower the village, the cheaper, and the worse the nightlife.
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I think Courchevel has some of the best skiing in the 3 valleys. If you don't want to pay the prices of 1850 it is worth investigating 1650 and 1550 which still both give you really good access to the slopes. Have stayed in 1650 before and there are a couple of lively bars worthy of a night out!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Fab place. Great skiing. Yes expensive to eat and drink in 1850 and on mountain. Good pistes for all levels. Great access to 3 valleys. I'd go tomorrow...... Highly recommend. Has to be done at least once...
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Glengooly-Guy, it very much depends on what you're looking for. IMHO, Courchevel 1850 is a great place to stay for a week - convenient access to skiing and some very nice restaurants. The only place I definitely wouln't go back to in the 3Vs is Meribel/Mottaret - too much of a rat run between the other two valleys. I'd generally pick Courchevel for skiing and eating, VT for snow (particularly at the beginning or end of season), and Les Menuires for economy. St Martin looks nice but is smaller. I've done two seasons in VT so it's naturally a bit of a favourite for me but would have been happy to go to Courchevel.
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If nightlife is your bag the ignore Reberty, if not then it has some excellent chalets and accomodation and doorstep skiing, The skiing in the Belleville Valley is fantastic.
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Not a good choice unless you can use miles and miles of superbly linked skiing of all types. If you like the idea of hundreds of km of superb piste then it is the best and priced accordingly. Can't wait to get back there in February.
Frosty the Snowman's, point is very valid. If you get around at reasonable speed then it doesn't matter much, from the skiing point of view, where you are in the 3V. If night-life is important to you then that is another story.
I love the 3V.
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I'm a big fan. always stay at La Tania as it is cheaper, smaller and gives very good access into Courcheval or to Merible and Val T.
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Pros – well managed and reliable snow; extensive slopes; trees; possible to budget more reasonably than commonly held perception; Supreme ski school; convenience; well-linked areas; masses going on (ski-wise)
Cons – eurotrash atmosphere of 1850, impersonal, stratospheric costs if you don’t watch out; limited appeal to non-skiers; could be anywhere – no real ‘French’ feeling.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Have stayed at the Hotel Courcheneige on the Bellecote piste several times. Great hotel which was run by the Heully family, but I now believe it has been sold to new owners - any reports please? Particulary like the the ski-ing above C-1650. I would recommend that you search out "Le Chapelet" red run right on the eastern border of the ski area. I agree with previous comments in that Meribel is not even close to Courchevel for the ski-ing.
In spite of the hideous architecture of Les Menuires (only the French could build a place like this in the mountains), I reckon the ski-ing here is particularly good on the "Fasse" area - good black runs quite challenging but not that difficult for the moderate intermediate.
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I liked Courchevel. When we went a couple of years ago, it was our first foray into the unknown without ski school. We skied over to Val Thorens and back, a little bit of Meribel in the middle. We also skied down to St.Martin. I thought the skiing in Courchevel was the best of the 3V - better snow than Meribel. I particularly liked the skiing above 1650 as well. My favourite run was Les Creux .We stayed in Le Carlina, on the home run. Very convenient. A guy carried my skis out every morning and all I had to do was step into them! However, the food wasn't great and I felt it was overpriced. I'd really like to stay at the very top of 1850 or in Le Praz.
We had a private lesson and then a 2 day clinic with New Generation - really good. The ski instructor gave us a good tip. You give your 'stance' a number on a scale 1 to 5, 1 being your tallest stance and 5 being your 'lowest'. We did different runs/turnsetc. and had to tell him what our stance numbers were and he told us what they should be. I'm bad at explaining, but the technique was something that helped.
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You know it makes sense.
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Glengooly-Guy,
I'm not a massive fan of purpose built and haven't been for a while. Having said that the skiing is great for pretty much every level of skier with a very good variety of slope and you certainly have to try it some time. Personally I would avoid high season if at all possible as it can get pretty crowded. (I am sure someone will contradict me by saying not if you know it ) But if it's your first time you won't.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Courchevel is very nice - my favourite French resort
I'd echo earlier comments about 1650, it's a good place for both moderate nightlife and excellent direct access to the snow without being as expensive as 1850.
Skiing above 1650 is really quite good and normally reasonably quiet (compared to, say, Meribel).
The only difficulty that I see is the "rat run" feel of Meribel is a bit of a nuisance and I wouldn't stay there uness I had to.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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marmalade ok what's that about
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marmalade wrote,
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Courchevel January 04:
Expensive
Snobby
Crap snow
Awful accomodation
Long transfer
Poor tuition
Male stripper at Ice Hockey
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Sorry, you had that sort of experience My experience at with Courchevel differs. BTW I have been twice Jan 2005 and Jan 2006; going back in 2007!
My slant on these points is:-
Expensive : It's certainly not a McDonald resort. There are Michelin star restaurants about. Depends what you're used too. Could stay in CV1650 or even La Tania and still access the 3V's and CV1850, they are cheaper.
Snobby : Not a bit. You may not find a Club 18/30 though.
Crap snow : Can happen anywhere, but with excellent snow cannon coverage you're reasonably safe. Try a low level Austrian resort such as Soll in a bad time, they can close! In 2005, Jan 3rd week, started poor,(By poor, thats only by Courchevels high standards though.) But then the snow was poor everywhere in France> Last 3 days had a mega snow dump, powder on the piste!. Just take a look at the snow stats.
Awful accomodation : Only if you pay buttons, I have stayed in Catina (that was poor, tired decor) but I expected it to be at the price £400 ish... . In 2006 the Dahu with Mark Warner, that was good. £600. Ya gets what ya pay for! Can pay a lot more though....
Long transfer : Only if you pick an airport far away.
Geneva or Lyon approx the same - 115 miles 2 - 3 hrs.
Chambery - 50 miles 1 - 2 hrs
Grenoble - 70 miles 1 - 2 hrs
Last bit up the hill can take while, usually decamp from coach to mini bus part way, Mountain road can be icy and require snow chains. I do know of tfrs that took > 4 hrs though due to tour operator stupidity or weather.
Poor tuition : Had mixed experience. In 2005 was great. Less so in 2006, but , from experience its usually down to a specific instructor or using ESF! Never put up with poor or inadequate instruction anywhere. Tell them and they usually do something about it.
Male stripper at Ice Hockey Glad I missed that but what ever turns you on! Must have been the same night as the female stripper (drunken seasonaire) in the bar I was at!
I realy enjoyed my stays in this area and would fully recommend it to anyone. Not cheap, I agree, but IMHO worth the cost. BTW, I have contributed two report for CV1850 posted in the Resorts section, you may wish to take a look.
TTFN.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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fraserp, I'd agree with most of what you said. I stayed in 1850 this year and all in all found the place to be fine.
There is no doubt that the skiing there is fantastic, which is why it is pricey - in particular 1850. If I was to go back I would go to 1550 as it is only a short ride by telecabin or chair lift and its cheaper than its higher rival.
I have also stayed in Catina and while I agree it is a little shabby, it is good value for money.
Ski school - I used Supreme there and found them to be very good.
I would agree with fraserp about Courchevel, it is a very good resort and I would recommend it to anyone
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