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Hi there,
Taking a friend to Kaltenbach at Easter. He has skied only once, years ago. He is a sporty guy and tells me he was the best in his group when he went (20+ years ago).
I have booked him a morning of private tuition, hoping that I can take him around as much of the mountain as possible for the rest of the week. that will also give me the chance of a recce of many of the slopes when he is on his lesson.
The piste map looks like it may be difficult to stay on blue runs to get to other blue runs. Is that the case? Any other advice gratefully received.....
Also, will I get into trouble if it is deemed that I am trying to coach him? (A friend was stopped in the 3 Valleys for this recently)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@boggyjo, You are probably better off asking on the Zillertal thread. A couple of the contributors are ski instructors (one in Kaltenbach itself I believe). Whilst you do need to be a qualified instructor to teach people I dont believe Austria has the same system as in France where there are on piste checks. You see lots of parents out teaching their kids. I might be proved wrong but doubt anyone would be upset if you were simply giving a mate a few tips, doing a proper teaching session is a different thing. Do be aware though of the insurance issues, if there is an accident and you were in some way leading or guiding (even not for money) you could be held liable.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @boggyjo, You are probably better off asking on the Zillertal thread. A couple of the contributors are ski instructors (one in Kaltenbach itself I believe). Whilst you do need to be a qualified instructor to teach people I dont believe Austria has the same system as in France where there are on piste checks. You see lots of parents out teaching their kids. I might be proved wrong but doubt anyone would be upset if you were simply giving a mate a few tips, doing a proper teaching session is a different thing. |
Isn't the crucial point (both in Austria, France or any other alpine country) that you need to be a qualified instructor in order to teach for financial reward? As you yourself suggest giving some skiing tips to a mate or your kids is surely permissable.
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@Alastair Pink, I think this is a grey area, ask Steve Angus! I believe the French are far stricter than elsewhere hence the disappearance of the tea club's volunteer guides or TO staff showing guests around the pistes. You certainly need to be cautious about offering any sort of unpaid guiding or teaching. Though agree cant see an issue with suggesting to someone they need to lean forward more or put more weight on the outside ski etc.
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| Alastair Pink wrote: |
| munich_irish wrote: |
| @boggyjo, You are probably better off asking on the Zillertal thread. A couple of the contributors are ski instructors (one in Kaltenbach itself I believe). Whilst you do need to be a qualified instructor to teach people I dont believe Austria has the same system as in France where there are on piste checks. You see lots of parents out teaching their kids. I might be proved wrong but doubt anyone would be upset if you were simply giving a mate a few tips, doing a proper teaching session is a different thing. |
Isn't the crucial point (both in Austria, France or any other alpine country) that you need to be a qualified instructor in order to teach for financial reward? As you yourself suggest giving some skiing tips to a mate or your kids is surely permissable. |
That's what I thought until I heard about my friend in 3 Valleys....
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @boggyjo, You are probably better off asking on the Zillertal thread. A couple of the contributors are ski instructors (one in Kaltenbach itself I believe). Whilst you do need to be a qualified instructor to teach people I dont believe Austria has the same system as in France where there are on piste checks. You see lots of parents out teaching their kids. I might be proved wrong but doubt anyone would be upset if you were simply giving a mate a few tips, doing a proper teaching session is a different thing. Do be aware though of the insurance issues, if there is an accident and you were in some way leading or guiding (even not for money) you could be held liable. |
Thanks..... reassuring.
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| munich_irish wrote: |
| @Alastair Pink, I think this is a grey area, ask Steve Angus! I believe the French are far stricter than elsewhere hence the disappearance of the tea club's volunteer guides or TO staff showing guests around the pistes. You certainly need to be cautious about offering any sort of unpaid guiding or teaching. Though agree cant see an issue with suggesting to someone they need to lean forward more or put more weight on the outside ski etc. |
Agreed.... many thanks.
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not sure, but as far as i remember, in order to teach as freelance in Austria you have to have to highest qualification and that only under circumstances etc.
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@boggyjo, There is Blue 12 in Hochzillertal that you can get to without using a red but you can't get back from. Otherwise, all the Blue pistes in Hochzillertal can be linked. Good luck in the afternoon on the Z!
If you try to get over to Hochfügen, I'd strongly recommend that your friend downloads on the Zillertal Shuttle. Those reds down into Hochfügen destroy a lot of inexperienced legs - even fit, sporty ones full of confidence and bravado!
On the piste map on the Hochzillertal website it looks like there is no way down from the top of Hochfügen unless you take a red. That's not right - Blue 11, then 13 goes all the way from 8erAlm to the bottom.
I hope that helps 
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Advice: can you still go somewhere else?
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| SaraJ wrote: |
@boggyjo, There is Blue 12 in Hochzillertal that you can get to without using a red but you can't get back from. Otherwise, all the Blue pistes in Hochzillertal can be linked. Good luck in the afternoon on the Z!
If you try to get over to Hochfügen, I'd strongly recommend that your friend downloads on the Zillertal Shuttle. Those reds down into Hochfügen destroy a lot of inexperienced legs - even fit, sporty ones full of confidence and bravado!
On the piste map on the Hochzillertal website it looks like there is no way down from the top of Hochfügen unless you take a red. That's not right - Blue 11, then 13 goes all the way from 8erAlm to the bottom.
I hope that helps |
Greatly thanks!
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