 Poster: A snowHead
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I've done this many times but I've never been sure whether it's OK or safe (in terms of being rejected at the airport instead of being stolen or whatever). But I'm travelling with a single pair of skis in a double ski bag, and quite a small case, and it would be quite handy if I could put some of the other gear in the ski bag as there's loads of room. What are people's experiences? (In case it varies by airline, this is Crystal/TUI).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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You've paid for a ski bag to go in the hold not a "bag of skis". It doesn't matter what's in it (apart from the usual dangerous goods), so fill it up within the weight limit and ditch the small case.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, good point!
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+1 on that
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I have a double box, usually take sons skis or a freinds, otherwise I fill half of it with gear, so end up taking a smaller main case..weight limit is 20 kilo...so might as well use it
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Yeh, I always used to do that,but more importantly when I have friends and family flying over they almost invariably do the same, sometimes even managing to get a pair of boots in with the skis. Well we used to, we had a big wheely bag with an almost solid end where the wheels are, so put the weight down there, couple of extra straps around the outside to keep everything properly in place.
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I did have the check-in staff say that bags had to be recorded as "double ski bags" because they were to heavy to be singles this season. Crystal/TUI from Edinburgh with Menzies aviation (I think) handling check in. It was just Edinburgh airport internal classification though, as far as I could tell: there was no suggestion of having to pay extra.
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Have had double ski bag not make it onto a flight and when I started to look into insurance was quite worried about what I could claim. Took a very long time for it to materialise and had to rent replacement equipment on a subsequent trip that wasn’t covered….
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There is not likely to be much extra weight involved, just some clothing.
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| RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
| You've paid for a ski bag to go in the hold not a "bag of skis". It doesn't matter what's in it (apart from the usual dangerous goods), so fill it up within the weight limit and ditch the small case. |
I don’t think that is actually the case. I think you’ve paid to take a piece of sporting equipment. So the airline can refuse a ski bag if it’s full of stuff that isn’t skis. Or more than one pair of skis.
Practically this would normally go unnoticed, particularly with self check in and bags being dropped at the oversized rather than with airline staff.
And I presume they’d not be able to quibble if the rest of the ski bag was full of ski equipment such as boots, and whatever other equipment you take with you.
But they want to stop you avoiding the need to pay for another bag.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| bouquetin wrote: |
| But they want to stop you avoiding the need to pay for another bag. |
Crystal give you a 20kg hold bag, a bcabin bag and a handbag or laptop bag, and charge you extra for the ski bag, so not in this case.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| tsgsh wrote: |
| bouquetin wrote: |
| But they want to stop you avoiding the need to pay for another bag. |
Crystal give you a 20kg hold bag, a bcabin bag and a handbag or laptop bag, and charge you extra for the ski bag, so not in this case. |
Yeah, but at the airport they don't care if you've got that deal through Crystal or if you have booked direct with TUI where the pricing structure is different. So the Ts&Cs say "sports equipment = sports equipment" rather than just "weird shaped bag with whatever you want in it".
Again, will almost certainly be OK. But a booking for a pair of skis isn't just 20kgs of extra luggage.
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I've always taken a double bag as my only hold baggage, filled with boots, clothes etc. and not paid anything extra for sports equipment.
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You know it makes sense.
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So, the question is, do I move my ski boots from my hold baggage to the ski bag, and put the extra clothing which would have gone in there in the hold luggage?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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All the gear I take on a ski trip could be reasonably described as ‘sports equipment’.
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Poster: A snowHead
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"Yes, these really are my special skiing underpants". (Actually, 20 years or so ago, I'm sure you could have bought 'carving underpants'. I still have a pair of 'carving socks').
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| J2R wrote: |
| I've done this many times but I've never been sure whether it's OK or safe (in terms of being rejected at the airport instead of being stolen or whatever). But I'm travelling with a single pair of skis in a double ski bag, and quite a small case, and it would be quite handy if I could put some of the other gear in the ski bag as there's loads of room. What are people's experiences? (In case it varies by airline, this is Crystal/TUI). |
Crystal/TUI specifically say youy can pad the bag out with clothing.
https://www.crystalski.co.uk/help/travel-info/
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Ski and snowboard carriage
You can buy ski and snowboard carriage on the Flight Extras website. It's sold per set of skis or snowboard (not per bag) – one set of skis or one snowboard in one bag costs £60 and the maximum weight is 15kg. A maximum of one set of skis or one snowboard can be carried per person. To take two sets of skis or two snowboards in one bag, you must buy two lots of ski or snowboard carriage at £60 each and the total maximum weight is 23kg.
You can also pack clothes in the bag, as long as it doesn't go over the weight limit.
Ski/snowboard boots aren’t included in ski or snowboard carriage – these are part of your normal baggage allowance and must be checked into the hold or carried as your hand luggage.
Please note, you can’t bring your skis or snowboard instead of your checked baggage – you must book separate ski or snowboard carriage, even if you’re not bringing any checked baggage.
You can use one of the larger wheelie bags by paying the £60 ski or snowboard carriage charge, with a checked baggage allowance of 23kg total. If you choose this option, you can't take any other checked baggage.
Why book ski or snowboard carriage before you travel:
It's cheaper than paying at the airport (£70 per set of skis/board at the airport).
We guarantee to transport your equipment to your accommodation in resort.
If your equipment doesn't arrive on your flight, we'll arrange intermediate ski or board equipment hire for free until yours gets there.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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As above the airline don't really get a say in what you pack where, as long as you abide by the weight and banned item restrictions (pressurised cannisters, batteries, firearms etc etc). The answer to the weird wording is usually due to what the airline will be liable for replacing under insurance should your luggage go missing, particularly as outsize luggage is normally the first thing to get left behind in case the aircraft is struggling on its weight limit or runs out of loading time as it's not containerised.
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| Richard_Sideways wrote: |
| As above the airline don't really get a say in what you pack where, as long as you abide by the weight and banned item restrictions (pressurised cannisters, batteries, firearms etc etc). The answer to the weird wording is usually due to what the airline will be liable for replacing under insurance should your luggage go missing, particularly as outsize luggage is normally the first thing to get left behind in case the aircraft is struggling on its weight limit or runs out of loading time as it's not containerised. |
Yes. This, in particular is why they say it can only be one pair fo skis or snowboard. When you book ski/snowboard carriage, they will pay for rental if the bag is delayed, and they won't pay for two lots of rental if you have oly booked one ski carriage.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| bouquetin wrote: |
| RedandWhiteFlachau wrote: |
| You've paid for a ski bag to go in the hold not a "bag of skis". It doesn't matter what's in it (apart from the usual dangerous goods), so fill it up within the weight limit and ditch the small case. |
I don’t think that is actually the case. I think you’ve paid to take a piece of sporting equipment. So the airline can refuse a ski bag if it’s full of stuff that isn’t skis. Or more than one pair of skis. |
All airlines have slightly different T&Cs but most will define your ski bag as "One pair of skis, poles and boots" - but also most airlines don't give 2 hoots what's in it so long as it's under their standard hold bag weight (which again varies from airline to airline).
Most people put 'extra' stuff in their ski bag though, be that additional pairs of skis/clothing/bottles of whiskey (but they do mean security will open your bag to check what they are)/whatever, and never have a problem. The only time it could be an issue is if your bag goes missing and you try to claim for the gold bars you had in there or something.
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| Mjit wrote: |
| The only time it could be an issue is if your bag goes missing and you try to claim for the gold bars you had in there or something. |
I will not be putting my gold bars in there, because that would take it over the weight limit.
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What about your ermine trimmed and Swarovski encrusted fartbag?
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| J2R wrote: |
| Mjit wrote: |
| The only time it could be an issue is if your bag goes missing and you try to claim for the gold bars you had in there or something. |
I will not be putting my gold bars in there, because that would take it over the weight limit. |
Depends how many. With current gold prices even a 100g bar is the best part of £13k!
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