 Poster: A snowHead
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Back from a couple of weeks in the Swiss 4 Vallées. And posting a plea to those outbound this season - please look uphill before pushing off!
Whether this has got worse or not, or it’s just my random experience, but some days, I had a real issue with people pushing off from standing, without bothering to look uphill. This was particularly the case with groups where the first person going might take a look, but people after them just didn’t bother. Any number of times I had to swerve to miss people, and please believe me - I’m not some sort of Adrenalin-fuelled speed junkie.
I appreciate that it’s easy to forget and I even did so myself a couple of times. Although I did have the self-awareness to realise I’d been careless.
I know this sounds a bit holier-than-thou, but I saw a couple of very dangerous near-misses. Yes, you do have to be aware of what people downhill from you are doing. But especially if it gets busier, just taking a few seconds to look uphill might save a serious accident.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Got to agree, I always ski as I would drive.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Totally agree. So many people just never look uphill.
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100% agree! Very bad around the top of lifts especially in recent times
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This, above most other things, really gets to me.
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Always been the way with my family members. I try to remind them, the record stuck, check uphill and wait if necessary, before skiing off or joining a piste. For self preservation as much as anything.
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I'm a biker...it's just common sense
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I always do. The wife pushed off two weeks ago with out looking up.Bloke coming down had to take evasive action. Was surprised he didn’t give her an ear full.
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I always do. The wife pushed off two weeks ago with out looking up.Bloke coming down had to take evasive action. Was surprised he didn’t give her an ear full.
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I really can't understand why anybody would ever start moving without checking uphill.
You wouldn't pull out from the kerb in a car or on a bike without checking first there was no traffic coming, so why on earth would you do it on skis?
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@alex_heney,
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You wouldn't pull out from the kerb in a car or on a bike without checking first there was no traffic coming,
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Speaking as an (ex-)cyclist, I'm afraid that car drivers are constantly doing that. 
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There are simply too many slope users these days that have no idea is the skier code. It really needs hammered home more. Copies at the bottom of every uplift or the inside of every gondola (who actually leans out of the window, smoking away as they swing the cabin anyway?) and on the back of every pass wouldn’t be to expensive to employ.
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Under the skier's code such clowns are fair game surely?
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You know it makes sense.
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^ what he said.
And as noted, car drivers pull out without looking all the time.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Despite not really having any near misses through this, it's probably my biggest annoyance at the moment whilst skiing.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Better to assume that anyone stationary on the piste may set off without checking at any time. I always check myself. But I also always assume that anyone in front of me may (and likely will) do something unpredictable or even stupid, much as I do when driving.
I agree with that many do not follow the skiers code. Many do not even seem to know that it exists. And that is a real problem. I have seen arguments on the slopes where it is clear that an uphill skier has collided with a downhill skier, then decides to attack the downhill skier for cutting them off or making an unexpected movement. To the extent that I have felt compelled to intervene and provide some robust education.
The problem is that until and unless there is some enforcement the problem will likely only continue to get worse.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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"I have seen arguments on the slopes where it is clear that an uphill skier has collided with a downhill skier, then decides to attack the downhill skier for cutting them off or making an unexpected movement."
Maybe the so called downhill skier had just set off without looking uphill to see if it was safe?!!!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Why are we doing this again... 《sigh. Its not 2 minutes since the last lengthy debate making the sane points
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| JDL65 wrote: |
"I have seen arguments on the slopes where it is clear that an uphill skier has collided with a downhill skier, then decides to attack the downhill skier for cutting them off or making an unexpected movement."
Maybe the so called downhill skier had just set off without looking uphill to see if it was safe?!!! |
Nope! That is an entirely different scenario.
Most common is when a relatively easy slope gets bumpy. Nervous or lower level skier is slow, stopping randomly, cutting across the slope and in general struggling. Faster more able skiers want to maintain a speed and line, and end up in conflict with the slower skier. Then blame the downhill skier for the coming together. Even more common is what is clearly a holiday, one day a week (normally middle aged male) skiing at a speed that they could maintain if the slope was empty, but not with the ability to change line or speed quickly enough to avoid skiers who do something unexpected. In essence massive over-estimation of ability combined with a sense of entitlement. And a refusal to accept responsibility as the uphill skier.
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Could not agree more! See above. It is actually vital that everyone understands the need to abide by the whole code all of the time. If you enter a slope without checking and in a dangerous manner, you have some fault and responsibility for sure!
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On the subject of the FIS code, I can’t remember the last time I actually saw it. And that is after just returning from 2 weeks skiing!!
I’m sure I used to see it on stickers etc in gondolas or lift stations but can’t remember the last time I saw a poster with the code on.
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| japes1275 wrote: |
On the subject of the FIS code, I can’t remember the last time I actually saw it. And that is after just returning from 2 weeks skiing!!
I’m sure I used to see it on stickers etc in gondolas or lift stations but can’t remember the last time I saw a poster with the code on. |
Pretty sure it's on gondolas and chairs across the 3 valleys
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Im pretty convinced you’re right LaForet. I was thinking exactly this to my self the other day as three groups in a row set off from the edge of the piste without looking up.
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I'd like to ask that parents teach their kids to look before their entry and exits to and from 'rat runs'.
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