 Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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#MeTwo ...or at least that's the time the alarm is going off !
Let's hope the things work as advertised 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Alastair Pink wrote: |
I'm flying from Heathrow tomorrow, so I'll see if a bottle of water inside my backpack goes through OK.  |
I think that the 100ml still applies to the containers, just that you don't have to bag them separately.
I found the fast track lanes have the new scanners at Stansted so it's sometimes worth throwing in an extra fiver to save the hassle of not having to unpack everything.
Also if you're travelling just with hand luggage it means you can pack more since the 20cmx20cm clear bags only hold about 4 x 100ml rather than the 1l they say you can take.
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@Cometspi,
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Liquids in containers up to 2 litres can remain in cabin bags and be taken through security in all terminals (T2, T3, T4 and T5).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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This is the pain, different airports will have different rules so you need to check. Although LHR seems to be behind most other airports I have used recently, in that they already have brought in the newer scanners so already apply these rules.
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Yep, just took a bottle of water through Heathrow security. The liquid rule of 2006 has effectively been scrapped, at least outbound.
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Oh that's good to know.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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They’ll be there until the first plane blows up 
Not sure I trust the technology 100% and given we’d all gotten used to it, why change?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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It's been like that in Edinburgh since last year too.
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Well, here we are at LHR T5 about to check in the big bags. Hand luggage has one empty & one full 1/2 litre water bottle. Will see which survive the scanners. Wonder what the rules are on getting electronics out now?
[EDIT1: That was both quick & easy !
All items remained in their bags, but boots, belts, coats, keys, & phones in the trays. All done & dusted in under 5 mins - from security starting gate queue through to Gordon Ramsay restaurant ... tho' Mrs.T42 got frisked & swabbed ...again  ]
[EDIT2: Her SkiMojo sailed through this time, but her snow boots still had to come off. Fortunately nothing that might go BOOM was picked up  ]
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| They’ll be there until the first plane blows up |
Or maybe the second, if it's a Boeing 
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| Not sure I trust the technology 100% and given we’d all gotten used to it, why change? |
No tech, or indeed human, is 100%. I imagine that after monitoring the roll-out from the smaller through larger airports, LHR feels ready to save us a bunch of time & themselves a load of money by reducing staff & increased time in their shops?
If you were wondering "why« ...the shareholders need feeding ...quarterly 
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You know it makes sense.
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| Yep, just took a bottle of water through Heathrow security. The liquid rule of 2006 has effectively been scrapped, at least outbound. |
This is the critical point to remember here. Just because you fly out from an airport that's dropped the limit doesn't mean you'll fly back from one that has so stil worth decanting shampoo/shower gel/etc or that big bottle you take out might get confiscated when you try to fly home.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Boris wrote: |
They’ll be there until the first plane blows up
Not sure I trust the technology 100% and given we’d all gotten used to it, why change? |
Almost like there was never a credible liquid explosion threat and it wad just introduce in an act of security theatre to make people feel safe...
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Poster: A snowHead
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There was and has been a very credible threat from liquids whether as a bomb or an accelerant.
A lot of the problem with introducing the new equipment is the weight of the CAT scanners. Most departure points at major airports are at least one level up. There’s a reason that most radiology departments are on the ground floor of hospitals.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@chocksaway, Interesting. Thanks.
Wonder if they could send the resulting piccys to the NHS. Two birds with one stone and all that. Save a lot of bother with waiting times...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Mjit, do a google search on Operation Overt 2006 and you’ll understand it was a very credible threat indeed.
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@chocksaway, we were told that’s why they have closed security at MAN T3, the floor isn’t strong enough.
I went through MAN T2 on the 15th, I had forgotten to take out two toggle screw cavity wall fixings from my rucksack, not there usually of course, they went through the scanners without any issue.
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| Mjit wrote: |
| HilbertSpace wrote: |
| Yep, just took a bottle of water through Heathrow security. The liquid rule of 2006 has effectively been scrapped, at least outbound. |
This is the critical point to remember here. Just because you fly out from an airport that's dropped the limit doesn't mean you'll fly back from one that has so stil worth decanting shampoo/shower gel/etc or that big bottle you take out might get confiscated when you try to fly home. |
Exactly this. LHR has had it in place for a while that electronics and liquids can stay in your bag. We flew out of LHR at Christmas. I had put them into 100ml containers in those plastic baggies and put them in one rucksack for ease of grabbing if they decided they wanted them out. No problem, all went through still in the rucksack. Flying home from BCN was a different matter. All needed to be out and in the baggies, no exceptions. Electronics, too.
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@geoffknight, so could a pencil 
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Dublin has had this for about 2 years now....google the policy of where you are flying to and just make sure they match up, otherwise the return journey turns into a ball ache.
We were in Zurich heading to Ischgl in Jan, we'll be there on Saturday and again in March and we still have to presume it's the old way as they don't anticipate their scanners been fully fitted out until the Summer.
imagine the Paddies being 2 years ahead of the Swiss eh??
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| jirac18 wrote: |
| @geoffknight, so could a pencil |
Not to mention the knife and forks you get, plus the glassware.
I posted the below 6 years ago on a similar thread.
I remember Steve Davis once having a snooker cue denied as hand luggage. His reply, " What am I going to do, put the pilot in a nasty snooker behind the green"
So many things you could buy as weapons both after security and on board.
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@dazman, We came back from Zurich on Saturday. Still 100ml per item but we didn't have to take anything out of our bags. I only had to take my belt out and empty pockets. Watch and shoes stayed on wrist and feet respectively.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@endoman, 
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So many things you could buy as weapons both after security and on board.
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It was a bit surprising that the woman sitting next to my OH on the flight home from Zurich on Saturday, was doing her knitting
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You know it makes sense.
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The articles highlighted above are not going to bring down an aircraft with strengthened and locked cockpit doors with strict entry protocols. 3 or 4 bottles of any accelerant you choose leading to a fire the aircraft could be lost and the terror created would be dramatic.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| halfhand wrote: |
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So many things you could buy as weapons both after security and on board.
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It was a bit surprising that the woman sitting next to my OH on the flight home from Zurich on Saturday, was doing her knitting |
Knitting needles have been in the officially allowed items for years now. My wife has taken her knitting in her hand luggage several times.
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Poster: A snowHead
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It turns out I didn't read the instructions carefully enough. I missed this bit:
"Remember refillable metal or double walled containers must be emptied but these can be refilled once through security."
Luckily, I was given the option of drinking the water in my metal water bottle rather than losing the bottle.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@alex_heney, ah, didn't know that (we don't knit) 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Recently had a 4 hour BA flight from LHR to Tenerife and there were no free bottles of water provided on the flight, just the free snack. But they were provided as usual on the return flight. Is this rule change the reason for that? (i.e. they're expecting you to bring your own liquid refreshments now that there is no impediment to doing so)
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I've taken my crochet hook on-board a flight. I do always show it to security so they don't pull me aside to check my bag when it flags up on the machine, and I never take my expensive hooks, just in case they decide to confiscate it.
Re water bottles, we took those foldable ones through in December. They were allowed to go through full, even in Barcelona.
@Busta Knee, We had water on our outgoing flight with BA in December. I suspect it was a oms off that you weren't offered it (perhaps they hadn't restocked).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yes - flew from North terminal last night and there were signs saying items up to 2 litres could be carried in hand luggage, and no need to take laptops, liquids, etc out of bags
It would be nice if one day I won't have to remove my belt too - I'm sure one day I will have an embarrassing trouser-falling episode
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