 Poster: A snowHead
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Hello All Off to Arabba in mid Feb, counting those days. I'm an experienced skier with good all round technique in various conditions. I'm taking my 2 sons (14 and 16) on their fourthtrip. They're solid intermediate skiers, happy on blacks (well, Sella Ronda blacks, though I hear Arabba is a step up in terms of difficulty) as well as ice. However, they've only really skied groomed piste. I'd quite like to get them a session with an instructor focusing on moguls in the morning and - depending on the conditions - powder in the afternoon. Or possibly the other way round, come to think of it. Anyway, the point is that I am not sure whether I want a half or a full day, asthe powder may or may not be available. How flexible are the ski schools (private lessons, obviously) on this kind of ambiguity? Am I committed even if it turns out the conditions aren't right? Advice, tips welcome!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Moguls and off piste on the same day is a virtually impossible combination.
Moguls grow in the course of (a) day(s) on a ungroomed piste.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Dolomites piste bashing makes proper moguls unlikely ; as is off-piste powder :: although an Instructor might be able to find some for you
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yes I know they're pretty heavy on the piste-bashing in the Sella Ronda ...But I had the idea that in Arabba they leave a couple of the pistes to get a bit more bumpy ( like they used to!)...but that may be a misunderstanding. And yes, I was hoping a guide wd know where to go for both, so my issue is not so much whether they can vbe found (that all depends- on weather and piste-bashing behaviour), but more on whether the ski school / other instructors might be open to people changing their minds if conditions aren't right. I can see that this may be an impossible question to answer so perhaps I'll just jump in and ask them!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I can't remember any piste being left in Arabba..... I find that Italians aren't keen on moguls, cramps their style!
(Here comes another telling off for 'Country Generalisation')
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Moguls and off piste on the same day is a virtually impossible combination.
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@Langerzug,
Brevent (Chamonix) yesterday ...
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Oh dear. Yes, it probably is a case of a mogul-less scene, then. Unless I can get the ski school to point me to somewhere they know. Surely someone still enjoys moguls?!
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As I recall the lower parts of Rientro? (piste 26, blue down to Arabba) and piste 31, red down to Monte Cherz, get a wee bit mogully in the afternoons - unless you're looking for bumps of the double-decker bus variety.
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@AllonsY, moguls or no moguls -- you will still love it!
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Do people still go down under the chairlift in trees? That was often a route to pick your way from bump to bump.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Orange200 wrote: |
| Do people still go down under the chairlift in trees? That was often a route to pick your way from bump to bump. |
They do indeed - but I think it is fine for the locals who know how to avoid logs and rocks !!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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If I found a mogul field here, I'd phone the Carabinieri.
Closest approximation would be orange SellaRonda either side of Arabba after half 2.
Off piste will be just your luck. At the moment there's very little snow off piste. Although there's non-trivial amounts forecast on wepowder for the next week.
Over Aosta way is probably better suited to what you're after.
Even if there isn't any off piste, Arabba has some of the best pistes in the area. 
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@albob, Yes, no doubt, looking forward to it, and enjoy the pistes. Just looking to mix it up a little, and teach the boys some new skills
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You know it makes sense.
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@Yoda, thanks for the tips... Not sure about the really big ones tbh!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| albob wrote: |
| Orange200 wrote: |
| Do people still go down under the chairlift in trees? That was often a route to pick your way from bump to bump. |
They do indeed - but I think it is fine for the locals who know how to avoid logs and rocks !! |
Also fine for the tourists who are renting skis not using their own 
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Poster: A snowHead
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Yep, as others have said, the Sella Ronda is probably one of the worst pla es to go for moguls, the Italians are obsessed with grooming every square metre of every slope every night.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| tangowaggon wrote: |
| Yep, as others have said, the Sella Ronda is probably one of the worst pla es to go for moguls, the Italians are obsessed with grooming every square metre of every slope every night. |
I do love the Italians 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I ski every year in the Dolomites and have found plenty of moguls including on the Sella Ronda circuit itself. There is a red run between Corvara and Arabba which has some lovely moguls. It needs to be later in the day with poor conditions and visibility. Everyone stops in the same place. Plenty of other pistes where they allow moguls to stay. Not sure about off piste. The Dolomites isn’t renowned for it but I had an instructor a few years ago that pointed out some gullies from the lift that he had skied. He did point out that conditions have to be right though.
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You want moguls … the dreaded piste carnage below Passo Gardena.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Last year in Alta Badia I deliberately booked some lessons late in the day to get some tips on how to handle bumps, some days finding them wasn't a problem others days more so.
Last week in Madonna di Campiglio I did the same and there wasn't a mogul to be seen, so we did icy steeps instead. Not as much fun but still useful.
It sounds like you know the area so why not book the lessons out of Corvara? book the 3-4 slot of the day when piste conditions are at their worst and you'll still have time to ski back to Arabba. It's highly likely any instructor will want to start with the basics and Alta Badia has a few almost guaranteed bumpy sections of varying difficulty. (I'm guessing starting easier than Arabba). There is the (in)famous blue section (8?) just below the Pralongia 2 lift and then some steeper sections on the SR. In my experience the Italian approach is more cautious to that I experienced in France so it's probably worth considering an initial lesson with the same instructor early one day so he can take your sons through their paces. FWIW We've had mixed experience with the Corvara ski school but Diego (an older guy who is one of the most highly qualified instructors in Italy) and Nicky (younger guy) were both good.
I have a lesson with a local guy who is part of the same group of ski schools in Alta Badia on Monday and will try and remember to ask his opinion, no promises as that's a whole 2 days away!
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