 Poster: A snowHead
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@LaForet, beautifully sympathetic timing to the story of a young woman losing her life directly linked to wearing a bag.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@LaForet, exactly
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@SnoodyMcFlude, I feel sure there wasn't an intentional lack of sympathy.
I actually think this is an example of the tendency on the part of quite a few snowHeads a) to generalise and b) to feel sure that their own way is the right way. It is for this reason that I haven't even tried to argue that, for me - for various reasons, including but not limited to the type of backpack I use, the strap modification I have (permanently) effected, my rotator cuff issues, my size and my general kack-handedness - the safer option all round is to keep the thing on. I am perfectly aware that those considerations won't apply to everybody.
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@KSH, you're right, I'm sure it wasn't intentional either. Just seemed a little crass to suggest that being delayed by a lift stopping or occasionally being knocked by a bag is a bigger evil, considering the circumstances. For 99.9% of lift rides I'm sure that's the case, but I think it's a hardship I'd rather inflict on people than having something unfortunate happen.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I think the problem here is that the safest course of action depends on the circumstances. The risk with backpacks is, clearly, something becoming entangled in the lift. However, the best way to mitigate against that is not, I would contend, always the same.
If I'm wearing my avi bag which has a crotch strap and numerous other attachment options then I always keep it on my back because there is a far higher risk of one of those straps getting caught if loose rather than cinched in and worn.
My 'normal' pack I take off as it's bereft of these extra accoutrements that might get caught.
I'm fairly sure that I've not inconvenienced anyone else with either.
Any early death is a tragedy but I think it has to be balanced against the overall risk; people die falling over in the street, hitting their heads falling over in showers and stairs are deadly. That one in a million chance will occur if there are enough people and time unfortunately. It doesn't mean that, suddenly, this is a huge issue necessitating legislation or an overreaction that might actually make things worse.
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@Blackblade, good post
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I really dislike skiing/boarding with a bag but sadly with two young kids plus going at Easter (when the temperatures change pretty drastically through the day) I inevitably have a ton of stuff that needs lugging around.
I usually just take mine off and put it on my lap for the chairs.
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Never take mine off. It normally has the avi gear in. Rarely now do I regret that decision due to short seats but if I stick in an extra layer it's a bit wide, so I don't normally bother with the extra layer.
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What have I said that’s wrong in the context of the original first post? That’s what I read, and a few more, and that’s what I replied to. And my experience, analysis and conclusions have not changed: I specifically set my post in the context of where I ski and didn’t generalise. And I set it in the context of being an issue years ago, when slatted chairs were common, but not so any more where very few resorts don’t have such chairs nowadays. So I stand by what I said and don’t consider it in any way an inappropriate comment and indeed, am offended that others should wrap themselves in a cloak of vicarious indignation. I think that @Blackblade has it pretty much spot on: circumstances vary and one needs to adapt to them. Just like every other element of skiing.
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@LaForet, just the timing of it, as I said before. The content is no different to what others have said, but in the context of the more recent post...
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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If I have a full on touring sack then I prepare by clipping the waist strap backwards around the outside of the sack then lift it on to just one shoulder - poles in the other hand. When on the chair I dump the sack on the seat next to me. The lifties in places like Pralognan are used to this.
If I have a day sack then I don't bother and just keep it on my back with all buckles done up. It pushes me forwards a bit but that's only ever a problem when someone else tries to slam the bar down quickly before I've settled down.
In the past I have moved it round me but I once had a strap completely caught. If this ever happens note that there is usually a rope or a bar to catch your legs and automatically stop the chair. Don't do the natural thing and lift your skis over it or the liftie will get very cross 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I remember that Decathlon used to do a backpack that used to swing round to the front too. It used to have a magnetic buckle on the bottom of the shoulder strap that you could release so it could be moved out of the way quickly. Used to have one but not seen them for a while. Damn shame as they were actually quite good.
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@sno trax, I've got a wee one that does that, I can never remember how it actually works properly 
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You know it makes sense.
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@SnoodyMcFlude, it took some getting used to but once you got the knack it was fine. Useful for walking too as we could unclip the shoulder strap to attach a roll up dog mat.
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