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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I thought the Normandie motorway and the route from chambery to Geneva had been operating as free flow for a couple of years now.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not for some time as a general thing - from Fulli website
France's free-flow freeways
In October 2022, ALIAÉ commissioned the A79 freeway, the first French motorway to offer free flow tolls over 88km. No more barriers and slowing down, Free flow works by automatically reading your electronic toll badge or registration plate when the vehicle passes the gate.
In December 2024, the A13 freeway between Paris and Normandy became a free-flow motorway covering nearly 210 kilometers.
New routes are expected to feature these tolls without stop or barriers. By 2027, this system should be in place on the A40 motorway between Passy and Annemasse, as well as on the A69 motorway between Toulouse and Castres by the end of 2026.
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So just like the current 30 T lanes roll thru
Still have the toll booths and the traffic jams when the tag don’t work??
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Might stop the queues that were very evident tonight for those heading north on the Route des Anglais.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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We went through one last summer. I cant remember the road number (possibly A89) but it was fairly far south. No toll area or booths, just gantries along the route with both ANPR cameras and doofer detectors. Doofers beeped even though we were doing 130 apparently, though i didnt hear mine over the wind/engine. I guess that's why doofer accounts need a reg number now in France as backup.
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We did the one west of Paris over the summer. I don’t gave have the Tag thing so had to remember to pay online. It was quite weird going through the two road work sections where they had relatively recently flattened the toll booth areas.
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It does make sense to have this system, a bit like the DART charge, where it’s all about having a prepaid account or a link to your bank. Means I don’t have to wake up my 16yo wingman from his slumber every time 
I’m Guessing for those who don’t have an account there’s a window to pay the toll and then it doubles/triples etc?
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Second time I used the Normandie one I forgot and paid it a week later. Supposed to have been an extra charge for paying after the 72 hour window but it was just the normal price.
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I was just looking into getting a doofer thing so will that do these tolls as well? I clicked on the link above and you can register for an account, which I assume just registers your reg number and a payment method? But you can also order a 'badge'. Is that the same as a doofer?
I assumed a doofer was an RF or some other kind of communicator thing, but a 'badge' sounds like it's maybe just a QR or something?
Basically, is a doofer and a badge the same thing?
If not, do I need both or a doofer and to set up an account?
And are all doofers the same?
Sorry, I've no idea what the best solution to the problem of paying tolls driving through France is. I've been looking for 30 mins and confused already.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The telepeage transceivers are formally called “badges” the term “doofer ” is, I believe, an invention of this forum.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Doofer is a commonly used term for any small electrical device
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Just to clarify things even more
We call ours a bipper!
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Bip and go website
You buy a bipper stick it on your windscreen give them a British bank account to debit by direct debit
You only pay for the month(s) you use it plus the toll fees as you drive it also lets you pay for some city parking but I’ve never needed that
Using it saves having your passenger hang out the window to pay tolls in the cold rain and lets you use the T lanes and T30kph lanes giving a huge superiority feeling as you bypass the ordinary mortals queuing up!
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You know it makes sense.
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Yea, I was just wondering if the badge in that Sanef link above was actually a doofer. I poked around and it is actually an 'electronic badge', so yea, a doofer.
But do you need a specific one for the free flow motorways? Or will any doofer work for those?
Actually, on further poking, that link above takes you to bip and go if you want to buy a badge. It's 1.90e on the month's you use it and nothing on the months you don't.
Seems like a good solution and if it gets around having to log in and pay for tolls, that I'll almost certainly forget to do, them that's got to be a good solution. Plus no hanging out the passenger side with a card.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Is it registered to the vehicle? Or could I take it and use it in a hire car as well? That would be handy as we drive quite a few hire cars on Spain and Italy over the year.
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Poster: A snowHead
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But do you need a specific one for the free flow motorways? Or will any doofer work for those?
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Any doofer will work. It just makes a little beep as you go under the free-flow gantries. And you don't have to do anything after that - it comes out of your account.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| B. wrote: |
| Is it registered to the vehicle? Or could I take it and use it in a hire car as well? That would be handy as we drive quite a few hire cars on Spain and Italy over the year. |
I think this depends on the company you buy the badge from. We could use our old one (think it was SANEF) with all our cars - we just moved it into whichever we were driving at the time. But our new one (Bip & Go) is registered to a single vehicle.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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OK, thanks all, I'm going to sort one out now.
This code gets you the card for 5 rather than 10e if you need one.
BIPLYNX20
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| B. wrote: |
| Is it registered to the vehicle? Or could I take it and use it in a hire car as well? That would be handy as we drive quite a few hire cars on Spain and Italy over the year. |
It’s registered to the vehicle you choose in you account I have my car and bike easy to swap as and when needed
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Go through all that and then it turns out they can't take IBANs from UK accounts. Even though, in theory, my Halifax account should work.
There's a UK site emovis-tag.co.uk but their fees are much higher. 7e per month used as opposed to 1.9e. Plus 10e per year as opposed to zero. Plus 20e for the card rather than 5e.
Looks like we'll be continuing to hang out the passenger window then...
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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@B., badge/bipper/beeper/toll-tag/doofer all the same thing, though badge is the official designation. My bip+go is registered to my Revolute account. It was on my VirginMoney account but the bank kept refusing dd payments to the EU. No issues since I swapped it over.
You have to add a reg number now* but you can alter it in the app. So using a hire car shouldn't be an issue apart from to just taking a few minutes.
* as far as I can tell for the anpr cameras on the free-flow sections, thpugh they have doofer readers too. Previously that wasn't needed in France.
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Thanks for all that. Not sure I can face opening yet another account but I'll see.
Hope the room mate I get in a couple of weeks is as easy going as you. Enjoy whatever the exotic place you were going instead.
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| B. wrote: |
Thanks for all that. Not sure I can face opening yet another account but I'll see.
Hope the room mate I get in a couple of weeks is as easy going as you. Enjoy whatever the exotic place you were going instead. |
Slumming it in Whistler 
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Starling bank account works for Fulli, and presumably any other ‘IBAN’ type service.
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| B. wrote: |
Go through all that and then it turns out they can't take IBANs from UK accounts. Even though, in theory, my Halifax account should work.
There's a UK site emovis-tag.co.uk but their fees are much higher. 7e per month used as opposed to 1.9e. Plus 10e per year as opposed to zero. Plus 20e for the card rather than 5e.
Looks like we'll be continuing to hang out the passenger window then... |
Most EU companies won’t accept UK IBANs as now that we’re out of the EU there are fees attached to international bank transfers, including direct debits. I had to close my UK based Revolut account and open a Spain based one after Brexit and set up all my EU based DDs with the new IBAN.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Hmm, Brexit, the gift that just keeps on giving.
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