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@Flipjango, in that case, almost any ski "base" is going to meet those needs. Val d'Isere is really quite a big town - quite spread out. And (despite the sarcasm above) it's a good idea to download in a gondola there. Some people (men, generally) seem to think it's an insult to their manhood to download in a gondola. Sad, really. 
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Although I like Megeve, the main problem is having to take a lift to get down again, which is rare. I much prefer the normal situation of skiing back to the village (in fact we often skied down further up the valley and took the bus to avoid the return lift queues).
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A big lift queue to get down would certainly be a pain. But then so is having to catch a bus! If you go to a resort where most people ski down, even if they are manifestly incapable of doing so competently, and thus entertaining to watch from the lift (e.g the Face in Val d'Isere) then getting onto a down life isn't normally a problem and for me is often the most civilised way of ending the day. Rather than skiing down a crowded run, not in great condition, with people who would have been wiser to choose to download. Finish the day up the mountain, on good quality snow. Relaxing in a lift with a great view down into the valley is a lovely way to end a ski day.
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Ok. So my experience of skiing isn't that expansive. Where is good that you can ski down to on the maximum of a blue run that has a buzzy (but not loud) town/village atmosphere, ideally with shops, restaurants, bars and if possible a bit of character, within an absolute maximum 3 hours (and ideally less) of a major airport, that will almost certainly have great snow the last week in March or first week in April? I'd definitely prefer no concrete monstrosities and aiming for slightly higher end spacious self catering (so ideally accommodation with some character, not a 60's concrete box). There, is that specific enough? 
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@Flipjango, Champagny ticks most of your boxes. The picturesque village with a 12th Century church is at 1300 metres with a gondola up to just below 2000 metres and there is ski storage at both the top and bottom of the gondola.
It is part of the La plagne ski area so plenty of high altitude blues to keep you occupied.
Plenty of restaurants, shops and a few bars in the village centre, ideal for a family.
Also a relatively new apartment block has recently been built just at the bottom of the gondola - https://residence-balconsetoiles.com/fr/
Around a 2 hour drive from Geneva or Lyon.
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Slight apologies for the sarcasm, but I think it has helped elicit a bit more info from you.
Not all resorts require a gondola to get down. Some have quite sensible home runs. Tignes for instance, that wouldn’t be a slush fest even at Easter (being 5 April 2026). Val Thorens also.
But they will have village-level snow so you may be better off with somewhere that does require a download if you want snow-free village. I’m even more inclined to suggest Val d’Isere or St Anton - and the latter is an easy transfer, even doable by train.
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| Flipjango wrote: |
| Ok. So my experience of skiing isn't that expansive. Where is good that you can ski down to on the maximum of a blue run that has a buzzy (but not loud) town/village atmosphere, ideally with shops, restaurants, bars and if possible a bit of character, within an absolute maximum 3 hours (and ideally less) of a major airport, that will almost certainly have great snow the last week in March or first week in April? I'd definitely prefer no concrete monstrosities and aiming for slightly higher end spacious self catering (so ideally accommodation with some character, not a 60's concrete box). There, is that specific enough? |
I got a reasonable sense of this from your original post, with interest in the Megeve ambience and architectural balance etc.
As Owlette noted first, Cervinia has a decent mix of these attribute and pretty short trip from Turin airport in fulfilling that element. A very good evening feel, great tuition from the Italian ski school there if needed (they have one of the best attitude and pragmatically applied method) to advance. Genuinely well worth consideration.
Samoëns, from Geneva another of interest. The lift is across a flat (alluvial plane ) valley from village, not far but noted because it's a short bus ride which is convenient though not direct lift from centre. A very good historically rated village with good atmosphere, ideal for evenings. It does work better than it sounds from bus description!
This might sound odd because of reputation and often has pointed criticism on forum from those not willing to take time there in exploring. Chamonix offers everything of the evening post ski vibe you ask for. Staying near the Brévent lift in town gives direct access up onto the ski area and back straight into town at end too. That side of the valley, connected to Flègére certainly has enough slopes in grade to help your skill level. I've "chaperoned" if that's the realistic way to describe it, friends with early level ski skill around there without issue. A little of an outlier, certainly but with much more potential than a cursory view would suggest.
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| James the Last wrote: |
Slight apologies for the sarcasm, but I think it has helped elicit a bit more info from you.
Not all resorts require a gondola to get down. Some have quite sensible home runs. Tignes for instance, that wouldn’t be a slush fest even at Easter (being 5 April 2026). Val Thorens also.
But they will have village-level snow so you may be better off with somewhere that does require a download if you want snow-free village. I’m even more inclined to suggest Val d’Isere or St Anton - and the latter is an easy transfer, even doable by train. |
No worries, all is forgiven!
Honestly, snow in the village/no snow in the village, don't really care one way or the other. Really more interested in there being very good snow on the slopes. I've had two years of mild weather and slush in February so very worried about going in late march and it being horrible. I had a bad fall last year where it had become very icy and mogully because of the bad conditions so I'm very keen to avoid anything like this again!
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| Flipjango wrote: |
| Ok. So my experience of skiing isn't that expansive. Where is good that you can ski down to on the maximum of a blue run that has a buzzy (but not loud) town/village atmosphere, ideally with shops, restaurants, bars and if possible a bit of character, within an absolute maximum 3 hours (and ideally less) of a major airport, that will almost certainly have great snow the last week in March or first week in April? I'd definitely prefer no concrete monstrosities and aiming for slightly higher end spacious self catering (so ideally accommodation with some character, not a 60's concrete box). There, is that specific enough? |
I got a reasonable sense of this from your original post, with interest in the Megeve ambience and architectural balance etc.
As Owlette noted first, Cervinia has a decent mix of these attribute and pretty short trip from Turin airport in fulfilling that element. A very good evening feel, great tuition from the Italian ski school there if needed (they have one of the best attitude and pragmatically applied method) to advance. Genuinely well worth consideration.
Samoëns, from Geneva another of interest. The lift is across a flat (alluvial plane ) valley from village, not far but noted because it's a short bus ride which is convenient though not direct lift from centre. A very good historically rated village with good atmosphere, ideal for evenings. It does work better than it sounds from bus description!
This might sound odd because of reputation and often has pointed criticism on forum from those not willing to take time there in exploring. Chamonix offers everything of the evening post ski vibe you ask for. Staying near the Brévent lift in town gives direct access up onto the ski area and back straight into town at end too. That side of the valley, connected to Flègére certainly has enough slopes in grade to help your skill level. I've "chaperoned" if that's the realistic way to describe it, friends with early level ski skill around there without issue. A little of an outlier, certainly but with much more potential than a cursory view would suggest. |
I really like the look of Cervinia but Turin isn't looking like a great airport to fly into for us - there aren't many flight options and flight times are pretty horrible and it would mean flying home very late at night which would be terrible with kids, plus the flights there are astronomically expensive. So Geneva or Austria is probably looking like a better choice, so we might have to rule Cervinia out.
I really can't do the bus option so I think that would rule Samoens out. It's a bit specific for me, but I have a connective tissue disorder that gives me problems with my arms that mean I really struggle to carry my kit around at all, and issues with my back that causes problems walking around in boots, but thankfully so far it doesn't seem to affect my skiing - hence why I'm looking for lifts in village with lockers nearby so I don't have to carry or walk around much.
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@Flipjango, look at flights to Milan as well for Cervinia, it's currently showing a 2hr15min drive from Malpensa Airport to Cervinia.
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Appreciate your focus and limitations @Flipjango, as I've always avoided, if possible, bus component in organisation of group ski holidays generally as its usually something that participants don't hold enthusiasm for 
However, if you don't own skis but hire, Roland Gay ski shop there (in centre of Samoëns) also have a shop at top of gondola in Samoëns 1600, where you can travel to and from in casual footwear. Further, there's quite a convenient and out in the open, bar /cafe at top of gondola to enjoy at altitude should there be a que at days end for decent. The bus from base to village centre is only a mile or so, and far outweighed by the village evening ambience in all reasonable reality. May juuust tease you into exploring
I understand there's fine balance in these things, but hopefully that gives a more encompassing picture of whats available.
There are also general access lockers at top, some accommodation available also at base station, but not huge, there's a very good restaurant located there too, but village centre is then a walk.
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@Flipjango, I'd suggest looking at Val Thorens, so as to maximise your chance of good snow. It's a fairly big town, with decent supermarkets, some nice shops and restaurants and a market during the week. In spite of being purpose built, it's really not a concrete monstrosity. Much of the accommodation is ski in / ski out, and many Snowheads know the town well, so can advise on locations. For example. The Oxalys, which is used for the EoSB could suit you well.
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You are hamstringing yourself somewhat on conditions by your chosen time of year. No one can underwrite what you consider to be "good snow" for you. At end of March it is realistic to expect that, if sunny, slopes will soften during the day resulting in moguls or piles of soft snow. Then refreeze hard overnight.
Your best counter move to that is to go as high and north facing as possible.
It can absolutely be a joyous time of year to ski (favourite for many) but you need the mindset and the developing physical skillset to make the most of it.
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| Flipjango wrote: |
| I had a bad fall last year where it had become very icy and mogully because of the bad conditions so I'm very keen to avoid anything like this again! |
Lessons! Don't change the resort, change your skiing. You'll enjoy it more!
(Is a mogull a bird doing Movember? Sorry!)
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@Flipjango,
I think Val d'Isere centre ticks your boxes. Village before it became a ski resort. Lots of shops, bars, restaurants etc. Two downloads back to the village centre - Olympique and Solaise. The two out lying satellites also have downloadable access should you choose them (Fornet has Fornet, which links to downloadable Vallon further up the hill, Daille has downloadables Daille and [funicular] Funival).
If skiing the wider Espace Killy, Brevieres has the downloadable of the same name, which (going upwards) reaches Boisses, which has a downloadable of the same name. Lac has Toviere. Val Claret had the Funicular, which links to Grand Motte to & from the high point of the ski area.
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Unless things have changed in Val D' Isere you cant down load to the 'village centre' but to outside the middle where you either have a walk or a bus
Its also pretty ugly and packed with braying Brits
It does have decent if rather busy skiing though that's pretty reliable for reasonable snow through a long season.
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So far, I'm leaning to Zermatt. The available accommodation is just so much nicer than in Cervinia for comparable cost.
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The available accommodation is just so much nicer than in Cervinia for comparable cost.
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Never been to either, but that seems surprising, given Zermatt's reputation!
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Perhaps I could have phrased it better. Most of the available 2 bed apartments in Cervinia look pretty dated and not to our tastes. The couple of places we like the look of are very pricey. Zermatt has a lot of nice looking places and while overall pricier than Cervinia, it’s cheaper to find a nicer 2 bed flat there.
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@Flipjango, it's a lovely place Zermatt, just watch out for the CHF prices with the current exchange rate! And also be aware it's a car free village,
https://zermatt.swiss/en/plan-book/arrival
Lovely wide blues down into Cervinia as well, Zermatt side is dominated by reds...
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Zermatt is a bucket list place and if you can get there and ski it, then you go.
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Most of the available 2 bed apartments in Cervinia look pretty dated and not to our tastes.
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In my admittedly limited experience a lot of Italian rental property is "pretty dated" in terms of the kind of interior decoration people are going for in the UK. In the summer I stayed at a fabulous villa rented by my son, overlooking Lake Como, with loads of bedrooms and bathrooms. The surrounding grounds - pool and magnificent mature trees - were terrific. But the actual rooms themselves, whilst comfortable, were definitely "dated". Lots of heavy brown wood. Light fittings which could easily kill you if they fell on your head! Gloomy "drapes"!
When I'm staying somewhere just for a week I really don't care about how "up to date" the decor is - just that everything works, it's warm enough, and nobody has to sleep on a sofa bed (so if I can't sleep I can get up and make myself a cup of tea).
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Most of the available 2 bed apartments in Cervinia look pretty dated and not to our tastes.
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In my admittedly limited experience a lot of Italian rental property is "pretty dated" in terms of the kind of interior decoration people are going for in the UK. In the summer I stayed at a fabulous villa rented by my son, overlooking Lake Como, with loads of bedrooms and bathrooms. The surrounding grounds - pool and magnificent mature trees - were terrific. But the actual rooms themselves, whilst comfortable, were definitely "dated". Lots of heavy brown wood. Light fittings which could easily kill you if they fell on your head! Gloomy "drapes"!
When I'm staying somewhere just for a week I really don't care about how "up to date" the decor is - just that everything works, it's warm enough, and nobody has to sleep on a sofa bed (so if I can't sleep I can get up and make myself a cup of tea). |
Each to their own. I'm happy for you that you aren't affected by your environs too much. I do however care a great deal about this. It's all part of the whole holiday experience for me! I like to stay somewhere nice and uplifting and with decor I like to go back to at the end of the day. I like nespresso machines and crisp towels and really lush comfy and ideally pretty new beds and mattresses and good bed linen and pillows. When I'm skiing I like to have a sauna. I like good wifi and a tv with satellite channels to watch at the end of the day and find that generally old fashioned decor tends to mean old fashioned technology too. Anyway, more than happy to pay for a nice place as it's what we like.
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Oh yes, good bed linen is important. None of yer polycotton, thanks. And I take my own pillow as I so dislike things filled with foam! Probably, if the decor is important, you're right to think about Switzerland rather than Italy. But I happen to love Italy and Italian lunch options win the day for me! The Como villa had excellent beds and linen - I had a super king size bed (they were all that size - the villa slept 12 but only if they were all couples) to myself!
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if you end up looking at French places it's worth noting that you can't take it for granted that bed linen is provided. Many French families, driving themselves, prefer to take their own.
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| if you end up looking at French places it's worth noting that you can't take it for granted that bed linen is provided. Many French families, driving themselves, prefer to take their own. |
Do they really prefer to take their own or is that because places either don’t provide it or charge extra for it? Taking it when driving is easy, but a bit more of a pain when flying.
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They prefer to take their own BECAUSE it costs extra! And sometimes because it involved trekking to a laundry at the beginning and end of a trip, a right pain on changeover days. Cleaning is also typically extra. You have the option to clean yourself but are expected to do a good job of it, not just throw out the food left in the fridge and give the kitchen work surfaces a quick once over. Some British owners of places in France have commented that French renters generally leave the place in a better state than British ones!
Self catering holidays were traditionally often a low-cost way of taking the family skiing - often three generations, so grandparents, competent skiers, could help with the little kids.
Where linen is provided, or you have paid extra for it, it might well be in professional laundry bags, all beautifully laundered and pressed, and you make up your own beds (and strip them at the end) . My daughter and grand-daughters always take their own duvets too, as they're so fussy about them.
In my experience owners NEVER leave enough tea towels. Two, for a family for a week, is not enough....
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No one has mentioned Zermatt … particularly, given that the OP liked Megeve. Stunning town with immense views of the Matterhorn + plenty to do off the slopes (eat, drink, shop, indulge in wellness, walk etc). Upload / download on a train, funicular or gondola / cable car. Snow should still be plentiful at Easter in every single sector.
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Each to their own. I'm happy for you that you aren't affected by your environs too much. I do however care a great deal about this. It's all part of the whole holiday experience for me! I like to stay somewhere nice and uplifting and with decor I like to go back to at the end of the day. I like nespresso machines and crisp towels and really lush comfy and ideally pretty new beds and mattresses and good bed linen and pillows. When I'm skiing I like to have a sauna. I like good wifi and a tv with satellite channels to watch at the end of the day and find that generally old fashioned decor tends to mean old fashioned technology too. Anyway, more than happy to pay for a nice place as it's what we like.
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An absolutely perfectly matching description of apartments within "Les Terraces d Eos" in Flaine -Grand Massif. Couldnt be closer in reality ! Oh, plus an enchantingly situated heated outdoor pool that's really quite magical in evening, steam room&facility too.Staying as family of four there is certainly of my children's stated highlights in their ski lives. Superb describes our experience there.
Not that the ask for traditional architecture of village will be met though. Often receiving criticism on here, but I'm a big admirer of the location, convenience and overall concept.
It is exceptionally well located right within all of its slopes, with virtually no restrictions to any level of skier in returning to accommodation.
Hotel Le Totem, another choice with exemplary location.
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@franga, she said she's favouring Zermatt
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| Flipjango wrote: |
| So far, I'm leaning to Zermatt. The available accommodation is just so much nicer than in Cervinia for comparable cost. |
Excellent in meeting your requirements, though can be a cost people balk at.
Some sectors you can ski all the way into the town centre right to a café bar. That along gently decending "ski path" I've skied right through to train station past all the shops too Amusingly there were also local elderly ladies travelling down into town on traditional evidence sled, all wrapped up in fur coats, this appeared a normal way of them getting into town from accommodation further up.
Is the accommodation in main centre of town ? Or listed in "Tasch" ? as that's a little further down the valley and reached via tramway. Its very efficient, clean and well organised if so, but detached from central. Lockers available at tram terminus in centre to leave things for convenience.
Dramatic and spectacular geographical aspect, really quite stunning in every direction.
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I stayed in Cervinia last Easter holidays and I am not surprised you aren’t finding nice self catering there. Most of the apartments are stuck over in Cielo Alto, a suburb with its own lift. The central village is mainly hotels, with any locals living in Valtournenche.
We skied on the Zermatt side every day as the snow was nicer over there first thing in the morning (no freeze/thaw) and the weather was generally benign. We never went below the 1st lift stages above Zermatt, all at about 1900/2000m as there really was minimal snow, just strips of manmade forming runs below that height, so I have no knowledge of the town.
I have, however, skied the runs extensively. What it definitely doesn’t have is a significant area of blue runs. The highest area (from Furi up to Klein Matterhorn, via Schwartzee and across to Hirli) is exactly what you’re asking for in terms of snow, 3900-1900m and north facing but it has only 1 blue run, which doesn’t even start at a lift! It’s all reds & blacks.
There are small areas of blues off the Riffleberg and Blauherd lifts. Blauherd chondola is accessible from the Sunnegga Funicular. From Blauherd you can ski on a choice of a few blues back down to Sunnegga and then through a selection of some of the most famous restaurants in the Alps served by the Findeln pistes and chairlift. Epic views and epic prices should be accompanied by reasonable grub. You can also take a Cable Car from Blauherd up to Rothorn for a restaurant with incredible views of the Monte Rosa massif, including glaciers. There is a blue run (14) served by the quite new and very swanky Kumme gondola up here. To avoid reds, you’d need to take the Cable Car back down from Rothorn to Blauherd again though.
The Riffleberg area is accessed by a gondola from Furi, the first stage of the (5 stage) Matterhorn Glacier Paradise 1 gondola, or probably more useful for you, the Gornergrat Mountain Railway. A few blues and a big 5* hotel/observatory are up here.
My knowledge of the village is limited to knowing that the Funicular, Mountain railway and main railway station are all quite close together but the base lift for MGP1 gondola is a fair trek or a bus/taxi ride away. If you find accommodation near the stations it might be fantastic, I wouldn’t think you would go near the MGP1 lift. The more adventurous (able to ski a red) could access that area from Riffleberg if they wanted. For the price of everything, I’d suggest it’s only worth it if you can link the areas by skiing a few reds.
For more information I’d recommend asking snowhead JohnMo as he’s a local. Find him posting regularly on the relevant snow reports thread. Finally, I don’t think you can get there in 3 hours from any major airport. Sion for sure, yes but GVA and ZRH, hmm, only with the clearest roads.
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Interior details etc, both Les Terassess d'eos & Hotel Le Totem have good accurate images available if you switch search to that.
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@Flipjango, if Zermatt is in your budget then go, it's an amazing place.
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Zermatt - nice village. It’s $$$ though. In a serious way. By far the most expensive place I’ve been to. I need to get over it
We did not have wonderful conditions when I was there last year (11th April). It was quite icy/bare. That said, perhaps we were a bit unlucky.
If the quality of the snow is at the top of your list, you’re going to need some high up skiing. I’d probably suggest Val thorens/les menuires.
Or maybe one of the plagne/les arcs villages. High up. Belle plagne maybe.
Terasses de eos/helios is very nice I can second.
I might have suggested l2A if you want a bar scene as well but it’s a bit lower down.
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Agreed with the Zermatt prices comment. We just did a day over from Cervinia. Stopped at a piste side bar. Bought 1 bottle of beer, a Snickers, and two Kinder bars. £23.
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Also, agree with the icy conditions comment. We went on Boxing Day, which I know is early season, but arguably comparable with Easter being late season.
It was really icy. It was a real surprise as conditions over in Cervinia were perfect, top to bottom. We assumed with them being similar altitudes that the conditions would be the same. Something to do with piste facing direction maybe?
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Something to do with piste facing direction maybe?
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Yes, Zermatt has some pretty spectacular geographical angles which give rise to significant shading in deep winter. Eased as season progresses but certainly part of location. Fabulously dramatic valley and situation though and obviously a big attraction too.
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| @franga, she said she's favouring Zermatt |
Taxi … 
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