 Poster: A snowHead
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| It is a couple of years off yet, but does anyone insure over 80s to ski off piste without a guide? My ski Club of GB insurance seems to end at 80. |
What about Carré Neige? |
What about if, for example, I hit someone and they were paralysed (or the same for me) and needed lifelong care, would I be covered? Insurance normally includes several million pounds cover for things like that. And presumably I would still need ordinary travel cover for my other, non skiing holidays. (By the way, I don't have private health insurance).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Not sure it is actually anything to do with getting older, but when I get to this time of year, even though I know I will feel different when I see the mountains again, I am so tempted to book a holiday to a warmer climate. It's been 12 years since our trip to Singapore ! I think it is a combination of dark nights and the UK climate. I'll be fine once I am back on the skis though.
@snowball, you will need personal liability insurance for any accidents you cause be that to people or property. It's already compulsory to have this in Italy when you ski I think, and every French person is required to have it too. In France it is part of the home insurance policy, and even children need it to attend school. It may be even be included with your UK home insurance, but you will need to look at your own individual policy as not all include it away from your home.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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In France it is part of the home insurance policy, and even children need it to attend school.
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Yes, we had no end of trouble getting my Italian-based grandson covered for summer sports camps in France, because he wasn't resident in either France or the UK.
It's perhaps because French people have this (third party cover) that it's not included in Carré Neige. My UK travel insurance does include it - I checked after a previous discussion here on SHs. A big third party claim definitely falls into the category of a low risk event which could ruin you and which you can insure against at low cost.
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It's perhaps because French people have this (third party cover) that it's not included in Carré Neige.
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Yes I think so. Fortunately even if my UK policy doesn't cover (we changed insurers recently), my French home insurance certainly will.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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you’ve implied in many different ways that people who still aspire to high level of activities will likely end up disappointed when their body limitations prevents them to do so. You call them moaners.
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No, those are your inferences, not my implications. That's why I asked you to be specific.
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@Hells Bells, I said it last year after returning from Brazil.
If I had to make a choice between Brazil and Serre, I would probably choose Brazil, that said I know I should be able to ski well into my 70's if one's health and body holds out, though that is such a lottery now at my age.
I couldn't realistically expect to be doing the strong wind stuff into my 70's, in much the same way the OH bailed a few years back, though not helped by her windsurfing buddy (my best mate) passing 
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you’ve implied in many different ways that people who still aspire to high level of activities will likely end up disappointed when their body limitations prevents them to do so. You call them moaners.
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No, those are your inferences, not my implications. That's why I asked you to be specific. |
I quoted this passage before, I guess that’s where I got the impression.
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I know people who "rage against the dying of the light" and it's sometimes rather like (less poetically) "constantly moaning". Being angry because you are ageing, regretting the things you can't do any more, the people you don't have any more, the terrible things that go on "in the world today" which are so different to the golden shores of youth.
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But somebody who wants to carry on skiing as long as they can (as I did) is not "raging against the dying of the light" unless they spend the remainder of their lives in bitter regret feeling hard done by. I would indeed criticise that approach to life, if anybody came up with it, because it's a recipe for misery. But nobody has!
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@Origen, that maybe your take on that phrase. But for some, it means performing to their best possible level, and for that matter, pushing a little beyond what’s perceived achievable within one’s own physical condition!
It’s far from “recipe for misery”, but a good motivator instead.
Indeed, you only hear those who moan about their decline. But you don’t hear from people who benefited from that “rage”. All you see are their amazing results.
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@abc, eh? That's a poem to a dying man, whose son doesn't want to lose him. The whole point of the poem is that although "the dying of the light" (i..e death) is inescapable, he exhorts his father to curse it, "with fierce tears". It's a bit of a stretch to see that as an exhortation to peak results in sport but you are, of course, entirely free to co-opt it in support of your philosophy of straining every sinew to achieve beyond what anyone thought possible. If your philosophy is that it's better to weep fierce tears rather than to accept with good grace that old age changes things (which you've not actually said is the case), then yes, I would disagree - because I see that as a recipe for misery. Though I'd not describe that as "rubbishing" your philosophy - just as disagreeing with it!
My philosophy of "being kind to myself" is, obviously rather self-indulgent in comparison! I have never been "achievement oriented" (i.e performing to my best possible level) and am not about to start, at 78.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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If your philosophy is that it's better to weep fierce tears rather than to accept with good grace that old age changes things (which you've not actually said is the case), then yes, I would disagree - because I see that as a recipe for misery.
My philosophy of "being kind to myself" is, obviously rather self-indulgent in comparison! I have never been "achievement oriented" (i.e performing to my best possible level) and am not about to start, at 78. |
“Weep fierce tears rather than to accept with good grace ” is only your biased interpretation of others effort to go beyond their perceived level.
Far better to make the effort and accept the occasional failure while bath in the joy of achieving it from time to time (or more often than not  ).
Just because you may prefer to avoid failure by not trying, doesn’t mean others can’t have a different preference. There’re plenty of others who can “accept with good grace” but only after they tried their upmost!
Last edited by snowHeads are a friendly bunch. on Sat 1-11-25 22:21; edited 1 time in total
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Well, 60 years old and a new, thought provoking poem to me. Thank you to those quoting and helping me find it. Poetry has always been a love / hate thing to me having, at 13, been forced to learn Wilfred Owen’s Dulce et Decorum Est in two hours then recite it to my house at school as a punishment for some nonsensical infraction.
To me, both of these pieces are very poignant and to a degree painful having known and loved my gentle grandfather, who fought on the Somme. With Remembrance Day approaching this conversation has accidentally or perhaps serendipitously brought about many powerful memories for me.
Anyhow, thank you and now let’s get back to the subject of having a poke at one another for being old 
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Well all I can say ,it's funny being the same age as old people.
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You know it makes sense.
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| Well all I can say ,it's funny being the same age as old people. |
Have you got the tee shirt?
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| rickboden wrote: |
Well, 60 years old and a new, thought provoking poem to me. Thank you to those quoting and helping me find it. Poetry has always been a love / hate thing to me having, at 13, been forced to learn Wilfred Owen’s Dulce et Decorum Est in two hours then recite it to my house at school as a punishment for some nonsensical infraction.
To me, both of these pieces are very poignant and to a degree painful having known and loved my gentle grandfather, who fought on the Somme. With Remembrance Day approaching this conversation has accidentally or perhaps serendipitously brought about many powerful memories for me.
Anyhow, thank you and now let’s get back to the subject of having a poke at one another for being old |
Great post and 60 isn’t old.
Allowing the 75 year olds here to cat fight.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Origen wrote: |
| But somebody who wants to carry on skiing as long as they can (as I did) is not "raging against the dying of the light" unless they spend the remainder of their lives in bitter regret feeling hard done by. I would indeed criticise that approach to life, if anybody came up with it, because it's a recipe for misery. But nobody has! |
... as the individual who, perhaps unwisely, quoted 'rage against the dying of the light', I just want to confirm that I DID mean it as 'carry on and push as long as you can' rather than 'sit around complaining'. My son would probably give me a hard time for failing to properly understand the connotations of the whole poem as others have, quite rightly, done. I just love the phrase so I was co-opting it as a way to encapsulate my intentions.
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