 Poster: A snowHead
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@Origen, we always enjoy passing the Chicken Services. Well on the way.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Origen wrote: |
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A journey is both something to get over and done with as quickly and as cheaply as possible and something to be enjoyed with charm and delight along the way. No reason the two should be mutually exclusive.
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While not mutually exclusive, it’s not guaranteed to be available at every turn of a journey either.
Some route option maybe fast but boring and desolate. Others maybe the opposite. So one MUST choose between those two extremes!
Depends on the objective, some (or sometimes) may choose the fastest route even if it’s boring. Others (and other times) may opt for a somewhat more interesting meandering ways but accept the sacrifices of reaching the destination a little later rather than sooner.
But take it to the extreme, one may just meander, destination be damned!
I’ve done trips of all those, and everything in between. So don’t tell me you can have it all in the same journey. What one can do however, is to find a compromise one personally find acceptable, which is what this thread has demonstrated how individually we’re very different.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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what this thread has demonstrated how individually we’re very different.
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A route is not "boring" unless you get bored. Going to the Alps from the UK the autoroute from Calais to well south of Reims is, I suppose, "boring" but I am rarely, if ever, bored driving.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@abc, for us it isn't just about limiting the skiing, we have a very long drive from NE England, and we normally only break the journey once, We usually at around midway point. We've recently started stopping for two nights, but it rarely reduces the skiing provided we have the annual leave. It was mainly due to a poorly dog in January. This winter it will just be one night stops I think.
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It is 14 hours plus a sea crossing for us from home. I think that counts as a journey. Google Maps says 16 hrs 49 minutes for 965 miles. Leave at 6am, usually arrive at 5-6pm for overnight stop, then a 8.30am departure the following morning. By the time we've stopped for food on the way, it is usually 5pm when we get to our destination.
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I think that counts as a journey.
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It definitely does! Mine is a lot shorter but definitely still a journey. In this country anyone who drives non-stop from the south coast to Scotland is considered to have done an epic journey!
For sure, the USA is different. I loved my trip in a big Hertz car around the States - missing ALL the tourist spots. Drove through Niagara at 2 am (snowy journey, hour after hour at maximum 50 mph with only one lane of the interstate cleared, three of us driving two cars). I wasn't bored then, either - and was impressed with the discipline of the American drivers, well spaced out, with scarcely anybody risking overtaking in the snowy outside lane.
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| abc wrote: |
I’ve done trips of all those, and everything in between. So don’t tell me you can have it all in the same journey. |
Take the Eurostar from London to Paris. You can buy an M&S sandwich and drinks from the onboard bar. Or you can take a picnic and bring your own drinks (whether vinous or Thermos). One of those options is cheaper, and one has the charm and delight. Amusingly the cheaper option is the one with more delight.
Think laterally! Carpe Diem! And have it all in the same journey.
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Whether or not you can enjoy journeys depends largely on your attitude. If any road you've already driven twice bores you, there's not much hope!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| James the Last wrote: |
| Andouilettes. They are off the scale delicious. |
Couldn’t agree more. And “Pieds et Paquets”, another French delicacy. We once had a €15 set 3 course lunch near Carpentras. Didn’t know the main was Larks’ Tongues until it arrived. Delicious, although I had to eat my wife’s portion as she wouldn’t!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Origen wrote: |
| Whether or not you can enjoy journeys depends largely on your attitude. If any road you've already driven twice bores you, there's not much hope! |
I can simply go a different way. Or to a different destination. The world is pretty big.
You should try skiing Japan 
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Well that's fine. If you have to keep going different ways to different places to stop being bored, so be it.
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Sfellows, I’ve never satisfactorily cooked tripe. It always tastes “somewhat” “earthy”. No matter how much I scrub and how often I change the water whilst boiling it.
But restaurants seem to have the trick sorted. Best tripe ever at St John in London. Oh and the Chinese are rather good at it too. Bar Shu in Chinatown for instance.
I recognise this is somewhat OT for champagne hotels but OP seems to have gone away satisfied!
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Poster: A snowHead
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P’raps this place should be renamed snowdrift.com
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| James the Last wrote: |
@Sfellows, I’ve never satisfactorily cooked tripe. It always tastes “somewhat” “earthy”. No matter how much I scrub and how often I change the water whilst boiling it.
But restaurants seem to have the trick sorted. Best tripe ever at St John in London. Oh and the Chinese are rather good at it too. Bar Shu in Chinatown for instance.
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Scrubbing? That’s just getting rid of the parts you don’t want to eat. Not to get rid of the smell.
There’s google.com. Try it.
There’s a universal foolproof way to get rid of undesirable smell. Not just for tripes… (learned that in one of my high school chemistry lab: “the chemicals in our kitchen”, but I guess not all high school has chemistry lab course)
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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the autoroute from Calais to well south of Reims is, I suppose, "boring"
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Particularly on the way home - soon as I'm on it I know the holiday is over and there's nothing to do but watch the marker posts tick down to 0.2 - it bugs me there is no 0.1
Going out it is a dull stretch but usually dark and everyone (not me, well not always) is asleep so just enjoy the drive. Scenery definitely perks up after Reims.
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@Boris, Troyes > Dijon is the bit that gets me. Feels never ending.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| @Boris, Troyes > Dijon is the bit that gets me. Feels never ending. |
It's not that's a dull landscape - on a bluesky day, it has a really quality, "lumina;" as my lad calls it where it appears very graphic, blue sky against golden fields or green grass - but I will agree, it last forever.
I think the fact that it's so rolling doesn't help; trucks seem to slow down by 10mph on the uphills and the traffic seems to just get a bit denser as a result so it becomes a bit less relaxing also.
But, I just say to myself "I'm going on holiday" and I can deal with this ever-so slight inconvenience, knowing I have skiing ahead of me.
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just so i can return to this thread, the first part anyway
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| rdsweb wrote: |
| @Boris, Troyes > Dijon is the bit that gets me. Feels never ending. |
Also the largely flat section through the old province of Champagne, over 100 miles, soporific to the driver.
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+1 for Chalons, and here's an extra tip - if you are there around the new year, they have a fantastic market, with champagne tents, the works, really great atmosphere. We are always skiing over the Christmas week, and stop off there on the way back. Lots of choice where to stay, including some REALLY good places. Michelin guide is your friend.
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So, a 5 hr run from NYC to Vermont on a Friday evening is just “commute”! 
