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Bataleon Blaster Asymwrap - toe strap keeps completely falling off - any advice?

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Hi - can anyone help or has the same issue? I’m riding Bataleon Blaster Asymwrap bindings (medium) with size 8 UK Van Aura Pro boots.

I’ve been finding that my right side Blaster after I take a tumble from hitting a box or kicker (which can happen often as I’m a frustratingly inconsistent intermediate trickster!) is completely falling off. I’ll ride away and 5-10mins later I’ll realise that the toe strap has completely fallen off.l and then I have to hunt for it.

To be specific, it seems to be releasing from the toe slider side first rather than the ratchet. Sometimes I notice it’s come away on that side and I have to re-cinch it down and other times, if the ratchet also gets caught in the snow - the whole toe strap will just fall off. This has been occurring since I’ve owned them in March, they are still in very good condition.

I’ve had this happen multiple times and once or twice I’ve even had it on mountain and it almost blew away on a particularly windy day over the side of a precipice as I was hobbling back to find it whilst in Les Deux Alpes.

There doesn’t seem to be any way to adjust the buckle on the toe slider side? Or am I wrong in this assumption? (See image)

I really like the feel of the Blasters but finding this frustrating? Is it the aux toe strap that needs replacing or is this a common design flaw?
Can anyone suggest a solution - can it be tightened somehow or should I just get a new toe strap from Bataleon?

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Looking at the picture - stupid question - but are your ladder straps on the right way around? Maybe its the photo but they look completely smooth?
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The slider probably has two positions in the binding base sometimes its only on one side but thats just part of setting up the straps you need to remove the binding to do it.

Id say even if a fault exists the rider is probably part of it .

Often riders dont get the boot right back in the binding heel pocket as it should be ..then the boot moves rearward under load of riding and the toe cap falls down or comes loose.

Are these bindings rebadged Ride bindings ?
Said to be part of the Nidecker group .
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Looks like you've got it in the toe strap setting in the picture maybe try as a cap strap?
You can push it down and move it forward, you probably know that already.
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@Tirol 164, These are Bataleon bindings part of Nidecker as is ThirtyTwo, Yes and Rome plus more.
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@Richard_Sideways - thanks for response. I thought you might be onto something there for a moment, but unfortunately not, having checked a few Bataleon set up videos - the toe strap ladder (on the toe sliders side) always has the smooth face facing outwards showing the embossed Bataleon text and the teeth (of the ladder) facing inwards. Also, the design is that just under the clasps for the Aux strap, there are few teeth, that then bite/fit along the teeth of the ladders inward facing teeth when you clasp it down to tighten.


@James77 - thanks for response. Yes - Ive tried it both ways. Ive adjusted it so rather than having the toe strap running over the tip of my Vans toe cap, I have instead tried it in the other position, running it over the ridge of my toes (so top of my foot) - this is better, as less likely that the toe slider slips down at all. However, I really prefer having it run over the cap of my toes, for better sense of contact and feeling to improve performance.

What I can't figure out is whats causing the toe slider to essentially un-clasp completely and flip to unlock each time, if it makes contact with the snow during a tumble.

There does not seem to be any way to adjust that clasp at all, unless Im wrong in this? Surely it shouldnt keep working itself loose each time!? It only has 2 positions either clasped down to lock or flip 180 to unlock.

Obviously you can adjust it up or and down the teeth, to change the length and have the strap more centred over you boot and as you have commented, adjust on the base between the 2 positions so its either toe cap position or over the bridge of your foot.

@Tirol 164 -

Often riders dont get the boot right back in the binding heel pocket as it should be ..then the boot moves rearward under load of riding and the toe cap falls down or comes loose.

Im sure this possibly may well occur in my case - under load that the boot may be shifting back a little, but in that instance would'nt you expect it to just slip off from the tip of the toe cap but in my case its completely unlocking, which means that the clasp is easily flipping 180 to an unlocked position during contact with snow and then its flailing loose from the toe slider ladder.

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Often riders dont get the boot right back in the binding heel pocket as it should be ..then the boot moves rearward under load of riding and the toe cap falls down or comes loose.
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Those types of adjuster are a pain in the a$$. I see this all the time with my clients on rental bindings, which are all quick-adjust for obvious reasons. They come loose constantly, especially in a fall.

There's no reason to have a quick-adjust feature here. You set it once to suit your boots and that's it.

If it were my bindings, I'd consider putting a cable tie round the adjuster so that it can't open. Or see if I could bodge a screw fitting from another brand on there instead.
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@stevomcd - thanks for the response. Thats a good suggestion with regards to the cable tie.
I've just queried in the recent thread here:

Bataleon Blaster - FASE
https://www.snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=173934

About the new Blaster Aswymwrap - Fase - as I quite fancy upgrading to those at some point but I was interested to know if the toe strap is essentially exactly the same design as the current non-Fase system Blaster AsymWraps.
I still think that this is unlikely to be design flaw though, must be either something not quite right in my set up or the aux strap just has quite a loose clasp, but the latter is hard to tell, once its locked over the toe slider ladder - it feels solid/snuggly locked.
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@Rod_K, Hi Rod that's a post I put up a few days ago. The strap looks the same as the non FASE Blaster binding.
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the toe strap ladder (on the toe sliders side) always has the smooth face facing outwards showing the embossed Bataleon text and the teeth (of the ladder) facing inwards. Also, the design is that just under the clasps for the Aux strap, there are few teeth, that then bite/fit along the teeth of the ladders inward facing teeth when you clasp it down to tighten.


Interesting - . Wonder if (and its a BIG 'if') you could remove the locking cam lever and turn it 180' deg so it pressures down towards the baseplate rather than along the trailing front which is probably what is levering it up and releasing the pressure. Hard to tell if its held in with a screw or bolt or with a rivet. Or try a thin cable tie wrapped around like @stevomcd suggests.
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@James77 - thanks for the response. Interesting exactly the same design - good to know.

@Richard_Sideways - thanks - Yeah the clasp is secured with rivets, so doesn’t seem to suggest it can be adjusted.
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@James77 - looking forward to getting your review of the Fase system in your thread later down the line, once you have evaluated them, be interested to know - the good vs bad - Enjoy.
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