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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@rob@rar, Interesting read - my understanding is that all of these things have been a requirement for a while (since the thing which can't be named) but have largely been ignored, although some stories of people being asked to prove they have funds in Spain etc.
I assume the new EES terminals just give an easier way to ask the questions - I'm sure many will just lie
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I'm sure many will just lie
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no doubt, but then perhaps they can readily be cast by the wayside as they will have broken the terms of the contract and the carrier will have been absolved of any duty of care?
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@rob@rar, Interesting read - my understanding is that all of these things have been a requirement for a while (since the thing which can't be named) but have largely been ignored, although some stories of people being asked to prove they have funds in Spain etc.
I assume the new EES terminals just give an easier way to ask the questions - I'm sure many will just lie |
No doubt many will tick the ‘Yes’ box regardless, and not get found out. But I wonder how often French immigration will do random checks to see if travellers meet all the requirements for Third Country nationals entering France?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I doubt whether they'd do many "random" checks, which wouldn't be cost-effective. But intelligence-led checks (and well publicised, when there's a gotcha) quite possibly.
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You'll need to Register first of course.
You'll need to Register first of course.
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Fortunately - I would be able to confidently answer Yes to all
Maybe at Le Shuttle they could add a question about Winter Tyres 
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and helmets
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Thanks for that Post Office advertorial, Layne. It includes such gems as:
"Among these misconceptions is the belief that travel insurance isn’t necessary (24 percent)."
Whereas the truth is that only people for whom travel insurance is necessary are providers of travel insurance.
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| Boris wrote: |
@rob@rar, Interesting read - my understanding is that all of these things have been a requirement for a while (since the thing which can't be named) but have largely been ignored, although some stories of people being asked to prove they have funds in Spain etc.
I assume the new EES terminals just give an easier way to ask the questions - I'm sure many will just lie |
No doubt many will tick the ‘Yes’ box regardless, and not get found out. But I wonder how often French immigration will do random checks to see if travellers meet all the requirements for Third Country nationals entering France? |
I doubt French immigration will care if you lie checking the box - but have an accident and end up in a French hospital for 6 weeks, then need a medical repatriation flight home and, well it's going to come to light at that point and I'd imagine you'd be permanently flagged as a persona non grata at least at the French border/probably the whole schengen area. Certainly when you scan you passport to go back in and it brings up a record that states "Owner has previously entered on an invalid visa waver" you're not going to be just strolling past the immigration desk... I'd imagine in that case you'd be automatically disqualified from the visa waver programme and need to apply for a full visitors visa from that point on.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@Mjit, surely if you pay for your treatment nobody is going to know?
Don't some people have to do that anyway - even if insured, as they claim it back on return...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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The 6 months long-stay visa application does not require you to have medical insurance over and above the GHIC card, so I can't see why anyone on a short trip would be expected to have anything extra. It is only when you wish to stay for more than 6 months that you are required to have either private healthcare or and S1 form from the UK government if you are a retiree.
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Hells Bells. Any UK citizen travelling outside of the UK should have travel insurance. Only idiots don't. The GHIC is not comprehensive.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Layne,
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To boot France is the top destination for the uninsured.
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that surprises me, i would have thought it would have been spain or greece, with all the "yoof" going to clubbing hotspots!!
i must admit, it has been a few decades since i was on any of these holidays, and i cannot remember if we had insurance, but they were obviously pre-T'internet, so we would have used travel agents, so maybe they were crowbarred into the price!!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I doubt French immigration will care if you lie checking the box - but have an accident and end up in a French hospital for 6 weeks, then need a medical repatriation flight home and, well it's going to come to light at that point and I'd imagine you'd be permanently flagged as a persona non grata at least at the French border/probably the whole schengen area
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As the hospital costs will largely have been covered by your GHIC card and should you have been recovered from the mountain using your AAC or carteneige and hence repatriated using that cover I doubt they'd care.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Old Man Of Lech, indeed the GHIC is not comprehensive but then nore are most insurances anyway. They all expect you to make some contribution and have long lists of exclusions.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Old Man Of Lech wrote: |
| Hells Bells. Any UK citizen travelling outside of the UK should have travel insurance. Only idiots don't. The GHIC is not comprehensive. |
Absolutely agree. I was simply pointing out the requirements for a 6month visa.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Hells Bells wrote: |
| Old Man Of Lech wrote: |
| Hells Bells. Any UK citizen travelling outside of the UK should have travel insurance. Only idiots don't. The GHIC is not comprehensive. |
Absolutely agree. I was simply pointing out the requirements for a 6month visa. |
THis is from the France-Visa website application wizard.
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Travel health insurance
For stays in France up to 6 months : UK-insured reciprocal healthcare entitlement documents (valid EHIC / GHIC). For stays over 6 months : Private Health insurance covering the entire validity of the visa (up to 1 year), except for retirees receiving a British retirement pension who may provide the S1 Form delivered by the NHS. |
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"As the hospital costs will largely have been covered by your GHIC card and should you have been recovered from the mountain using your AAC or carteneige and hence repatriated using that cover I doubt they'd care."
If you're involved in an incident that doesn't happen while you're skiing/boarding - e.g. you slip while walking back to the hotel and break a leg. GHIC will cover the hospital treatment but won't cover the costs of someone staying with you (or for you to stay with an injured child), and AAC/Carteneige won't cover the repatriation costs.
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