 Poster: A snowHead
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I would have thought the piste map is highly sought after information when navigating a website, but they are never easy to find!
Is it just me?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Google it! And it may well be a decade or more out of date...
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Never had a problem finding them.
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I just use this website for any piste maps I want to find, usually easier than looking for them on resort websites:
https://piste-maps.co.uk/
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| johnboy wrote: |
I would have thought the piste map is highly sought after information when navigating a website, but they are never easy to find!
Is it just me? |
No -- I find the French ones particularly 'awkward' !
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To my mind, french websites in general are pretty crap. Most are focussed on impression with lots of bells and whistles but provide little useful information at all.
Contrast this with australian sites that tend to be practical and useful.
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| zaphod424 wrote: |
I just use this website for any piste maps I want to find, usually easier than looking for them on resort websites:
https://piste-maps.co.uk/ |
Exactly this & download the PDF - it zooms better
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| altis wrote: |
To my mind, french websites in general are pretty crap. Most are focussed on impression with lots of bells and whistles but provide little useful information at all.
Contrast this with australian sites that tend to be practical and useful. |
Doubt many posters on snowheads will be looking at Australian ski websites in any given year.
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Much easier on most resort apps than websites. Then again a paper one is much easier still on the hill.
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Skiresort.info.
Including stats
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@altis, I couldn't agree more.
@johnboy, no, it's not just you. It's quite infuriating sometimes.
The modern European resort website seems to want to hide all the useful information behind fancy scrolling pics.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I think it's because they want to encourage you to download their app.
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Speaking of which, how can so many resort apps be so appallingly poor?
Full of useless rubbish & sometimes ads yet so often lacking excellence in all the intuitively obvious things à skier on the mountain wants to know.
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You know it makes sense.
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@chocksaway, yes and no - I like a paper map to plan a route in the morning, but on the hill wearing contacts, to look at map involves finding reading glasses or asking someone to hold the map about 4 feet away  The app maps I can zoom in on more easily
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Gored wrote: |
| zaphod424 wrote: |
I just use this website for any piste maps I want to find, usually easier than looking for them on resort websites:
https://piste-maps.co.uk/ |
Exactly this & download the PDF - it zooms better |
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Poster: A snowHead
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I don’t think piste maps are particularly hard to find on resort websites. It’s just that ski resort websites are universally crap. You’d think that buying a lift pass would be the easiest thing on the site but try a simple task like buying an 8 day pass for les arcs. I just tried and couldn’t even get to the winter version of the page. Sadly they are all flashy graphics and buried content as if designed by a 15 year as a school art project.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I don’t think piste maps are particularly hard to find on resort websites. It’s just that ski resort websites are universally crap. You’d think that buying a lift pass would be the easiest thing on the site but try a simple task like buying an 8 day pass for les arcs. I just tried and couldn’t even get to the winter version of the page. Sadly they are all flashy graphics and buried content as if designed by a 15 year as a school art project.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Never had an issue tbh.
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| altis wrote: |
To my mind, french websites in general are pretty crap. Most are focussed on impression with lots of bells and whistles but provide little useful information at all.
Contrast this with australian sites that tend to be practical and useful. |
Yes! They can sometimes be in French for goodness sake! The Ozzies have the good sense to talk in English!
I jest of course, but it did remind me of an incident I had in Sweden a few years ago. I was queuing up in a Swedish shop and the shopkeeper was having some difficulty communicating with the woman in front of me. When the woman had left and I stepped up to the counter, the Swedish lady says to me in English -- " Why can't these Germans learn to speak in English like everybody else!?".
And I don't know how she knew I was English!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Yeah, agreed. I don't know why there isn't a prominent map link on the very first page. I can eventually find them but it's always a few levels down.
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| Pasigal wrote: |
| Yeah, agreed. I don't know why there isn't a prominent map link on the very first page. I can eventually find them but it's always a few levels down. |
I would humbly suggest that you answered your own question there. Clearly they want you to look at more of their website, which you are in fact doing.
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I worked out how to get a piste map of les arcs - type “les arcs piste map” into google and it was first on the list. And it look me to the correct page where summer lift map was and a link to download the ski map which downloaded promptly from another site. It was out of date. I suspect this year’s is not yet available.
@phil_w, when will web page designers realise is don’t want to waste my time looking at fancy graphics of mountain bikers coming down the hill I want to go straight to the information so perhaps the home page should have just 5 buttons:
Lift passes
Accommodation
Piste map
Other information
Fancy graphics
The last is just to keep the children happy consuming data on their mobile phones.
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Just use openskimap.org and you don't need to worry about looking for a trail map ever again.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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Just use openskimap.org and you don't need to worry about looking for a trail map ever again.
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| johnE wrote: |
@phil_w, when will web page designers realise is don’t want to waste my time looking at fancy graphics of mountain bikers coming down the hill I want to go straight to the information so perhaps the home page should have just 5 buttons:
Lift passes
Accommodation
Piste map
Other information
Fancy graphics
The last is just to keep the children happy consuming data on their mobile phones. |
The answer to your question is: never. They know they are wasting your time (and mine--it is annoying), and they are doing so on purpose. This is also why the milk is in the back of the store.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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@johnboy, some of the Austrian areas are impossible to find. I've found the French sites are better but these days I just good '<ski> ski map' because I'm too easily frustrated and beaten down by bad website design
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I find many website designers are desperate to show off and probably don’t care about (and perhaps fear) the user testing stage where naive people are brought in to try to find common things.
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| johnE wrote: |
| I don’t think piste maps are particularly hard to find on resort websites. It’s just that ski resort websites are universally crap. You’d think that buying a lift pass would be the easiest thing on the site but try a simple task like buying an 8 day pass for les arcs. I just tried and couldn’t even get to the winter version of the page. Sadly they are all flashy graphics and buried content as if designed by a 15 year as a school art project. |
You can say that again! 
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You know it makes sense.
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Add also that when you do get to a piste map it is usually an interactive thing when I always just want a pdf I can download and look at at leisure.
I just tried Val D'Isere, four clicks including clicking a link called "ski map" which takes you to a page with a link "see ski map" which then opns an add for a video game with nothing to do with VDI before an interactive map opens hosted by a third party. But I have no interest in which lifts are open today 21 Sep and I had no luck finding a pdf map at all.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| johnE wrote: |
| as if designed by a 15 year as a school art project. |
Perhaps that’s because they were designed by 15 year old? 
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Poster: A snowHead
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@rdk, those interactive ones on websites do my nut in.... yes, great for live info about which lifts are running (they are useful when they're on apps and you're in resort) but just perusing a map to see if the resort is good for when you are booking a holiday, a Pdf is ample I find. The Austrians seem dead set on interactive maps
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You are right - a download pdf button on the Tignes website that doesn't exist on the Val D'Isere website.
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