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UK "sea of fire" to bring summer heatwave

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Experts have warned that ocean temperatures off the coast of Ireland could bring heatwave conditions to the British Isles. Ocean temperatures are the highest on record. "It's super intense at the moment. The marine heatwave has really soared this week," warns Dr Ségolène Berthou at the Met Office. The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores. In the North Atlantic, sea surface temperatures have been increasing by around 0.3C per decade over the last 40 years, according to the Met Office.

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@davidof, “ other warm water predators”

I thought Rolf Harris was dead??
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There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots.
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rjs wrote:
There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots.


The problem seems to have been caused by a local law in Devon, and - having read this - I actually dont understand how their "solution" is going to work !!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce81yl0gvrro
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@GreenDay, I think it would work for crab pots as the larger entrance is a sort of 'one way flap' big enough for the larger crabs to get through, but can't get back out. It's possible the octopii ( like lobsters ) don't like pushing through a flap, but can squeeze through the smaller holes.

Not quite sure what the plan for lobster pots would be mind.
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davidof wrote:
Experts have warned that ocean temperatures off the coast of Ireland could bring heatwave conditions to the British Isles. Ocean temperatures are the highest on record. "It's super intense at the moment. The marine heatwave has really soared this week," warns Dr Ségolène Berthou at the Met Office. The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores. In the North Atlantic, sea surface temperatures have been increasing by around 0.3C per decade over the last 40 years, according to the Met Office.


The recent rise in sea temperatures in North Atlantic is absolutely terrifying.
Has been going on for 6-12 months - and scientists seem puzzled why there has been such a remarkable spike in temperature in such time period.
Absolutely no doubt this has a direct impact on UK weather and climate change releated.
The little snow we got in Scotland last winter only really arrived from Northerly direction.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c7533y6l3k0o

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@Haggis_Trap, I think if you look back you'll see it is the last 3 years, accounting for the last few season's very poor snow below 1500 to 1800 meters in the Alps. Looks like next winter will be more of the same from your chart.


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davidof wrote:
@Haggis_Trap, I think if you look back you'll see it is the last 3 years, accounting for the last few season very poor snow below 1500 to 1800 meters in the Alps. Looks like next winter will be more of the same from your chart.


agree....
sadly good tree skiing is becoming a rarity.

feels to me like the climate took a step change for the worse post covid.
Sea temperature seems to match that.
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When is this going to happen please?

It's 6 C in Cardiff this morning
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@Haggis_Trap, this graph should interest you (as in the chinese curse). It shows the model average of global boiling as the black line against actual obervations in red. We can clearly see a pause from around 2015 which climate deniers use to claim global warming is fake. Are the pause and peaks related to sunspots?

From 1980 we see 6 major peaks at 83, 87, 98, 2010, 2017 and now at 2025. Every peak is a bit more severe than the last. The only way is up though. Currently we are around the top of the 95 percentile. One might guess that things will revert to mean in a year or two and perhaps we'll get some reasonable skiing in during the second half of the decade.

Why did the models dip around 1993?

The other thing to bear in mind is the Alps are warming faster currently.



anyway given what we know now I'm predicting another poor season below 1800 meters in the French Alps.

I found this article wink about oceans and global temperature variations: https://pistehors.com/23750770/ocean-cycles-pause-global-warming
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and I found some history to Haggis' graph above

http://www.mercator-ocean.eu/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/Figure_SST_multidata_med_2025-03-27_GLO12_ESA.png

Scorchio !
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The heatwave could brings plagues of jellyfish and other warm water predators north to the British shores.


Oh no! Does that mean that all the pensioners that 'retire' to Thailand will be coming back?!?
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Richard_Sideways wrote:


Oh no! Does that mean that all the pensioners that 'retire' to Thailand will be coming back?!?


Happy

I have a friend pilot who hates doing long haul to Thailand because of the profile of his passengers
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@davidof, The dip could be explained by volcanism. Although the numbers were similar in adjacent years, their locations might be relevant.

There were 3 large eruptions on a Volcano (Mount Spur) in Alaska in 1992. The ash cloud reached 10 miles high.
This could have had an effect on the jet stream during that period, upsetting weather patterns for Europe.

Plus Mount St Helens in late 1990 sent up a massive amount of dust, which may have had an effect in the following years.

Found this site useful.
https://volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?question=eruptionsbyyear&checkyear=1990
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Mount Pinatubo erupted in 1991, that had a bigger effect than any other volcano.
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@brianatab, @rjs, ah well done guys
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davidof wrote:

From 1980 we see 6 major peaks at 83, 87, 98, 2010, 2017 and now at 2025. Every peak is a bit more severe than the last. The only way is up though. Currently


Sun spot cycles are known phenomena which are known to affect global weather patterns (and in particular El Nino / North Atlantic Oscillation). Though there is going to be natural variations and events like volcanoes on top of that.

Certainly the rising sea temperature are a concern for skiers (good news for North Sea surfers). Interesting topic!
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Going into another winter with exceptional warm surface sea temperatures is a concern for any air masses from the west. The last couple of seasons has actually delivered heavy snow at altitude but temperatures have been marginal. i think it’s a long time since truly low temperatures were last recorded in the Alps ? I wonder though if a very warm Atlantic might somehow make easterly set ups more likely ?
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Peter S wrote:
... I wonder though if a very warm Atlantic might somehow make easterly set ups more likely ?


True, it could create blocking high which obstructs gulf stream
Which can lead to prolonged easterly
Might be cold, but also dry?
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@Peter S, last winters have seen a lot of moist south westerly air over the French alps
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rjs wrote:
There was a recent report of a plague of octopii that were eating everything in crab and lobster pots.


Octopuses is fine. Octopodes is the pedantic solution, being based on the Greek. Octopii which is a faux-Latinisation is, I'm afraid, just plain wrong!
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@James the Last, Toofy Grin

We must have a word with Admin for an emoji to represent being pedantic.....
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Octopusi is better. rolling eyes
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Octopii is an incorrect spelling of a word that would be spelled Octopi if it actually existed...(I've used spelled, instead of spelt, so as not to upset non-British pedants).
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